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#26 16 Nov 2008 05:13

Newmoon
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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hi Kate, I'm sorry to hear you had a hard time with your son, and glad that you both survived the tests that came up.

I also have Sag Moon cnj Cap Asc - Moon at 29,53 deg and Asc at 3 degs. Natally I have Moon in the 12th square Pluto in the 10th. I'm having the last hit of Pluto/Moon this week and I'm also about to begin the long drag of Pluto sqare Pluto. It's been a hard year. I also lost my job (but luckily got another one - I'm just not as happy as in the one I was retrenched from), my relationship ended, a close friend was diagnosed with cancer and my beloved tom cat died last month at only 7 years from leukemia (oddly enough he was given to me by the friend with cancer). I find that yoga is the only thing that really helps me at present - I also did a meditation course this year but I'm still struggling to 'settle' into it. Gardening also soothes me a bit but it's yoga that gets me through.

I've had plenty of Pluto transits since Pluto moved into Sag - but Pluto square Mars and Pluto cnj Moon have been the most challenging. I'm hoping Pluto square Pluto and Pluto/Asc will be a little easier to cope with.

Newmoon


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#27 16 Nov 2008 14:26

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hello everyone, I am very glad to see this thread up at the top today. I feel I could do with your quality Pluto conj Moon company.

kate wrote:

What it proved to me is how deep and holy the bond between a mother to her son can be, if it had been any other relationship i don't know that it could have stood all the tests that came up and have survived.
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Kate, that's elegantly put, and thank you for talking about your t PL conj MO experience of mother-role transformation. It's helped me.

Newmoon, I'm just coming out of the Pluto square and dipping into the t PL conj MO, the other way round to your experience. It's a strangely grey and glum landscape, oomphless, when I could really be doing with a bit of oomph.

My natal Moon is at 02CP37, in the 2nd. I can usually handle upcoming transits with a bit of tallyho attitude, however this time I'm feeling (of course) a unsettled sense of fear and dis-ease already.

As with every major transit as it approaches, at the mo the potential major players are taking their starting positions on the stage, or placing themselves strategically on a chess board, whatever image suits you best: Cancerian types with the power to turn my life inside out are emerging; old reproductive health problems are shifting from smouldering to acute; my modest squirrelled funds - that 2nd house Cappy Moon security - are being challenged, with the potential of reforming during the transit as a new chunk of house. With one eye on my mum, and the other on my children, I'm already finding it tricky to see straight. Am making sure I remember the St Johns Wort.

I would like to come out of this with something more constructive than the blitzed and bulldozed results of my t PL conj MA of a few years back. Hey ho.

I'm glad to be back.
Bests to all.

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#28 18 Nov 2008 06:13

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Thanks guys for the feedback, its great to know one is not alone in this period of Transformation, Transmutation and inner turmoil and change.

As the old power and the old self goes, it is a rather raw sensation at times.
Thanks Newmoon, I think it is that Moon degree of ours with its conjunction to the Galactic Centre point that increases its' Pluto's crossing intensity. Have you any thoughts on that Moon/Galactic Centre conjunction?

Gin thanks for that feedback, glad it also connected with your experiences.

Most of these changes are still very new and I am still finding this new identity of mine, as it develops over this period of time.

But again,especially to you Newmoon as you are sensing the same through Yoga. thank God for Yoga and its ability to help balance the deep inner changes as they occur. Even though I have been with Yoga for so long now, I am finding a whole new connection to it now. Like I am really just getting to really understand it. But perhaps that is just the deepening of my experience with it too.
Blessings,
Kate

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#29 18 Nov 2008 07:36

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hi Kate

I have Sun at 25 deg Sag - and a lot of Sag midpoints (I have 5 planets in Sag) - I don't know much about the Galactic Centre. I keep thinking I must investigate more but have yet to get around to it.

I find that I 'need' yoga like I didn't used to in the past, in the past it was for enjoyment and exercise. Now I find myself quite desperate to go to class. Also I am fortunate in that my teacher is absolutely lovely, a caring compassionate - and funny! - woman. All her students are very fond of her. She is quite a 'mommy' figure.

Blessings to you too
Newmoon


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#30 22 Dec 2008 21:43

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hi everyone,

I decided to join this forum after searching for hints of Pluto conj. Moon and finding this. I have to confefss that I've been terrified wit the approaching transit, and although my aspects are at 2 degrees, I felt a Pluto whack already in April and now, and ongoing feelings of compulsino and obsession throughout the year.

I have Moon at 2 degrees Cap, Venus 2 Aries and Pluto 2 Libra- a perfect T-square. I started therapy in March and I'm also into a yogic breathing technique, which I'm trying to do almost every day to calm myself down. I lost weight this year, but I also have Saturn transiting my first house now.

Anyway, I'm going to keep an eye on these posts to find some comfort and maybe even some advice.

Thanks for starting this!

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#31 30 Dec 2008 02:32

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

I have a 7th house Scorpio Moon, t-square to a Uranus/Chiron opposition.  So right there it's clear that transiting Pluto on my Moon was not going to feel very good.  When it hit (many years ago) I fell in love with an unattainable man (he wasn't married, just not interested in me "that way) and I couldn't let go.  I lived out every obsessive fantasy I could.  When he told me he was dating other women I went into my walk-in closet, crumpled to the ground and stayed there for 2 days.  What drama!!!!   It took 3 full years for me to get over him.  Looking back I just find it ka-razy that I would go to such lengths to experience those depths of emotion.  I actually felt like I had to move to another state to get away from the insanity.  I have had "obsessive love" like that happen since that time, but I recognize the feeling and do everything I can to not give in to the obsession.


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#32 31 Dec 2008 07:41

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

I am very interested in this thread. I have my moon in the fourth house in capricorn at 00'36. As transiting Pluto is conjunct my moon it is trine my natal Pluto. There has be a lot of energy lately with Mars and the Sun going over this point.

I have one teenage daughter  who finds it impossible to tell the truth and would like her FREEDOM now, do doubt with me financing it with no questions asked. I failed to tell you that Pluto sits on my asc natally and my closest aspect is Pluto square the Sun. (my birth info is May 31,1961 12:37 pm Southern Illinois.) You could say that I think I know what is best for everybody, and quite often right, but have way to direct of a delivery for most people. I have dabbled in Astology for years and know just enough to scare myself sometimes.

I love reading threads that pertain to my family astrology. I guess I am a born "shrink' at heart but work with Pets and people for a living.

Let's keep this thread going!!!!!

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#33 31 Dec 2008 09:32

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Replying to Newmoon: "Anyone else here had Pluto/Moon and Pluto/ASC transits right after each other?"

Yes but mine was a trine to both and I have Pluto/Sun trine Moon/ASC natally also, so the current transit forms a grand trine with my natal aspect. Overall I have found these pluto transits pleasant and constructive :

When trining the Moon it was possible to look directly at some underground issues and be able to take it on the chin without trying to avoid it - being able to deal with it - I also found that whatever puzzled me about my own psyche/emotional nature, I was able to frame a question and intuitively find the answer almost immediately. Pluto had trined its own place immediately before the transit to the moon.

When Pluto trined Ascendant (it will return there during 2009) I found myself in a somewhat powerful position within a group and that wasnt natural or comfortable. I seemed to have an unusual amount of influence over others. I felt the responsibility of it rather keenly. This group activity, which I initiated, also changed nature of the region I live in. I came into contact with quite a number of very intense, very motivated and passionate people. The inbox was totally out of control. I should add that my involvement with this group has had a fairly obsessive / compulsive quality about it - it consumed an enormous amount of time and energy. (Uranus transited opposition to Mars also, throwing fuel on the fire smile ).

There was only one relationship difficulty that occurred - I needed to end a destructive friendship and did so. It was a relief, after bearing with it for 25 years.

Now Pluto's trine to the Sun is approaching.

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#34 31 Dec 2008 11:27

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Thanks Plutonia, you sound like you have had positive experiences with Pluto.

I have found Pluto/Moon rather challenging. I have my ASC/Moon/Sun all square Pluto natally so lots of things I struggle with often came up and lots of grief is also surfacing. I have had years and years of Pluto transits and I feel a bit worn down. I am looking forward to when they ease off for a bit. I'm hoping that Pluto/Asc and Pluto square Pluto are going to be a bit easier than the other transits were. Luckily I have Jupiter and Neptune being good to me for the next year, so that's great.

Pluto trine Sun should be a nice one.

Newmoon


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#35 31 Dec 2008 13:50

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Yes: the last difficult Pluto transit I can recall was conjunct Saturn in 8th many years ago. Natally I have Pluto and Saturn in square.
It was followed by Pluto square Pluto and Saturn's transit through the 12th and 1st houses...
The whole passage was a difficult one marked by (1) closure of the department of a company that I worked for (the closure took 3 years) and eventual redundancy (2) lots of hard thinking about what I really wanted careerwise (3) abandoning the old career and going back to school (4) totally reinventing myself in a new career.
I suppose what made it bearable was that I was acting upon my own conscious choices to a large extent.
During the same passage a new relationship blossomed, but there were difficult hurdles for me in terms of trust in intimacy, as you might expect from 8th house Saturn. We made it, thanks mainly to progressed venus conjunct Pluto.

I hope your coming transits will be a symbolic 'rising from the ashes' smile
Personally, I have found Sabian Symbols really useful objects for meditation on degrees. I didnt know about them back then but I wish I had! I'll start a thread on that some time....

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#36 31 Dec 2008 18:39

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

In the Pluto/Moon spirit I thought I'd tell the forum about progressions that are currently underway, all in the sign of Scorpio coming up to my 7th house Moon.  The progressed Sun hit my Moon in Scorpio about 4 months ago and I found myself (surprise!) in an obsessive relationship with a very sexy man, but knew pretty soon that I needed to move away from it.  Now it's gone (the relationship) and progressed Jupiter is approaching my Moon with progressed Venus about to conjunct the progressed Jupiter within a couple months.  P.Jup. is at 12 degrees, my Moon is 13 degrees.  I wish I could jump up and down and say "yipee!" with both the benefics about to progress to my Moon, but my Moon squares Uranus in the 5th and Chiron in the 11th.  So within a couple years my progressed Sun will square both those planets and I'm afraid that whatever happens in the conjunction will be taken (painfully) away by the squares to Uranus and Chiron.  I have been reading the posts about people undergoing pluto transits and I agree it is very wearing on the soul to be taken down to the depths so much.  Just what kind of contract did I sign and what was I thinking???

This conglomeration has affected my family:  My father (Sun) who I have always been semi-estranged from (he is a Pisces with Saturn conjunct his Sun, and very afraid of the feeling nature, sees people who feel things as "victims") is  now dying of cancer.  He has gotten more mellow, but he is very wealthy and still controls what he doles out (not that I think I deserve anything, just that he uses money as a control device) and in his dying days has gotten more controlling even though he is watching all his children undergo terrible events that leaves many of us destitute.  He has always believed that hardship is a "good thing", builds character, etc.  Anyhoo, perhaps the conjunction of p. Jup to my Moon will soften the relationship.  I have always said that Jupiter is sometimes a really difficult planet because it blows everything way up, and when it comes to Scorpio the drama can get blown up out of all proportion.  I do have a wonderful female friend (I call her my angel) that I think represents the Venus side of the progressions.  Our friendship  began about a year ago.  I am very grateful for the "good side" of these transits.  I also will post in the Uranus/Saturn forum because along with all the Scorpio progressions to my Moon I have the Uranus/Saturn opposition directly on my Sun (ruler of my 5th house) and it's hard to tell which transit is which because everything is hitting all at once.

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#37 07 Jan 2009 14:23

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hello, transiting Pluto is now just about to cross my Ascendant, and when it does so, it will oppose my Moon, which is in conjunction with Saturn. I've had my dose of Pluto transits, they have always been deeply transforming but tough for sure. I'm a bit worried about this one, having two little children (6 months, 2 years). My Moon is in Cancer 7th house. Does the Pluto-Moon opposition work in a similar way to a conjunction?

I have Venus in 5th house, trine Pluto, so I'm hoping for some protection from that department....

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#38 08 Jan 2009 18:32

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

I don't think I'd worry too much about your children.  If you are married, however, you might look at what is happening in your partner's life, with his mother or other women around him.  Pluto opposite Moon is *not* a conjunction, although I've heard some people say that the best way to use it is to try to "make" it like a conjunction... i.e., don't go for the projection (and the 7th is a "projection house" anyway).  I have experienced Pluto Moon as a very deep transformative emotional experience, and with Pluto on the Asc. you can bet the transformation is about *you* taking off a "mask" of some sort, becoming more you than you've ever been before.  Please let us know what happens during this transit!


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"What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside you"

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#39 08 Jan 2009 20:16

Jardine
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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

dog8818: thank you for your reassuring post!  I look to Pluto in the 1st house with an amount of hope, as the transit through the 12th house was very difficult psychologically, bringing up hidden emotional garbage from the past that was near-impossible to let go of. The whole transit revolved round the issue of self-acceptance and the ego resisting it. Fortunately, it's soon coming to an end. I  do, indeed, hope in the emergence of the "real me".

I have been hounded by Pluto transits all my life, starting with Pluto square Moon and Pluto square Saturn when I was just two years old (huge crisis between my parents, mum trying to take her life). The family situation is difficult on both my and my husband's side, so some issues can indeed come up. However, despite the toughness of all the Pluto transits, I'm deeply convinced of its transformative power now. It has been my best life teacher, in fact smile

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#40 01 May 2009 23:17

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Today I had a big fight with my SO surrounding issues of our house and money, and so I decided to do some more reading on this transit. I was googling "pluto conjunction moon" and found this thread, and was interested in reading other people's experiences with this transit. Mine has been going on for over a year (moon is 0 Cap 29'21" in the sixth house). This may be the last pass over, I am not a skilled astrologer, but have been watching my major transits now for several years, and during a professional reading 2 years ago the astrologer talked a lot about this transit, in particular about the potential for a massive transformation with my mother (even perhaps a maternal death).

Well, my mother is STILL alive, but she is getting on years (mid-eighties). We have always had an extremely vexed relationship. and I have done my best to try to evade her motherly love (it never felt like love during my early years), and her company, suffering incredible guilt along the way, feeling like the bad daughter. (Interestingly enough, I have a cancer asc, and my mother is a cancer. I have always felt that there was a connection there, being that I have felt that through life I have rejected the cancer/water part of me and hence my mother. Does that make sense)?

About five years ago (my 40th year), I started on a more serious spiritual journey, one that involved doing a lot of self inquiry and attempting to start owning my projections about the world and people. I did a lot of work on my mother, and though a lot of other issues I had been having shifted for the better, I still felt exactly the same toward my mother. Nothing seemed to change.

So....long story short, pluto began conjuncting my moon, and it was as if this complete 360 degree turn happened with the way I viewed my mother. One day she called, and we started talking about her coming to visit me (a long trip), and in the past, I have always been reluctant to see her (that is a understatement). And, just out of the blue, I realized that I wanted to see her. It began a whole series of realizations over several months, I started to see her as a person, not my mother, and also seeing things from her perspective. I spent a lot of time going back through my life, and just viewing my memories of her and seeing them in different ways.

For the VERY first time in my life, I can say that I both love her and miss her presence. It wasn't that I just suddenly stopped seeing her negative qualities, it is that I saw her positive ones, which I had never been able to see before.

So, I have the pluto transit to thank for that. It was probably the greatest gift I have ever gotten, and one that felt like it would never happen. So now I am onto the other less 'healed' parts of the transit, working in harmony to fix this falling down house (bought, YES, during the pluto transit last summer). I hope there is hope for that one and the transit won't break up my marriage.

Thanks for letting me blather on, this has been cathartic.

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#41 17 Nov 2009 01:51

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

In searching transit pluto conjunct moon I found this site. Transiting pluto conjuncted my natal 12th house moon February 15, rx on May 25, hits again on December 14, 2009 and retrogrades back to station within 5 minutes in September of 2010. I've been an astrologer for 34 years, and wasn't looking forward to this transit since I've had such a colorful psychodynamic family history. Yes, some of these things have already come up for review....a colleague told me I would be "depressed", not so; I think depression is repressed anger, I've FELT the anger, which is probably healthier than feeling depressed. Not only have I felt intense anger, I've felt the grief and sadness for previous situations and losses going back many years. In present time I felt impelled to leave an abusive relationship that took nearly 5 years to phase-out, consequently have lived in 4 states (U.S.) in the past 2 years, left behind or given up all the old possessions; miraculously 'new' things I needed came easily and are still coming in. I made conscious choices to terminate long time toxic 'friendships', have located long-lost friends and relatives and so much more. I've made drastic changes in diet and exercise to maintain good health. I feel I will be a better teacher/consultant/advisor as a result of the awareness triggered and the choices forced by the Pluto thing. During and beyond this transit I plan to share, write, publish.....whatever it takes to give back. I've always practiced 'choice-centered' astrology, emphasizing to my clients and students that the choices we make can determine the outcome. Now it is my turn to practice what I preach so to speak. I'm happy to find this forum, it has indeed been cathartic to share.

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#42 18 Nov 2009 11:58

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

NE16th what a lovely post.  I understand your feelings on both sides.  I have a similar relationship with my mother and also my daughter.  I don't know if it's a mother/daughter thing or certain family heredity, but it's been a very huge project to try to overturn the negative energy and make it about the positive.

I'm still working on it.  HURRAY for you for changing your attitude and welcoming her.  Last time my mother came to visit, she became very ill and probably will never be physically up to making the trip again.  She is 84 now. 

I can honestly say that being a mother is one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life.  Also one of the most fulfilling (sometimes).

Welcome to the forum, Maryl33.  Thanks for sharing.

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#43 18 Dec 2009 06:11

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Wow, I have enjoyed reading this column and site. Been studing astrology for 20 plus on and off. I enjoy events, weather patterns and disasters more than anything. Sometimes I get the feeling that I am getting help with a chart so maybe an intuitive astrologer?

I was always concerned about pluto moving into cap because of my son's sun, neptune, saturn, uranus, merc stellium. How was it going to effect that generation as a whole. Most of the young adaults in that genre are pluto scorp but that is another thread, maybe I will start one.

I was totally oblivious to the fact that I am also had my moon, 7 degree, saturn 26 degree in cap and jupiter 2 degree in 12th, 5 Aqu asc Leo Sun 2 degree sixth house. When pluto hit Cap it was like an explosion in my life.
I remember telling my boss that I felt like a hurricane was forming and I thought it was work..hahaha Not so.
Little did I know I would be at the center of that hurricane. Capricorns kids came out in droves. Most ended up in incarcerated. More than have of our coutries prison population are under 23 years old hence making then pluto scorpio kids.

I totally isolated myself "fear" have been unemployed since, 21 years of great employment. Dreams that took me so many places that I ened up actually visiting, so precog and past life. I had so many mixed emotions anger, fear, shame, guilt, grief... I had internalized these feelings so much by May 09 I was hospitalized and almsot or wanted to pass. It was to much energy. I immediatly went into counseling, 2 actually.. Mental exhaustion to the piont of physically being unable to function took over.

I am alot better now. I have renewed my relationship with my mom. Mercury in cancer conjucts my moms sun, so my moon opposes her cancer planets and we have been far apart for years. Our relationship is for the first time good, we are still 3000 miles apart but we respect each other. I actually think she looks up to me. I have a feeling that she will pass when pluto his my moon and we are together in the end if that makes sense.

I am very spiritual, and at first seaked out help with priests, high priests, and higher preists. There was a small window of pluto in sag.. I really felt likle someone was after my soul almost 2 years ago. I would talk to them and tell them of my experiences. We had many long long talks.

Isolation, whoever said we need time alone to digest this energy is correct, it helps. I have noticed many cancer females coming into my life or other mothers. (mothers with kids in prison)
Super healing, absent abilites or the ability to visit at will, what ever that is called. I am very careful about who I let into my life and if you screw it up, you are history. Very firm boundries but a very soft heart. So I feel like I am protecting myself, make sense?

Recently I have noticed I just fall alseep, anywhere, anytime..in the most inappropraite places.
I used to study hypnotherapy, not any longer. I can snap myself into a trace in 3 minutes. Well, I  guess this is the begining of a long 15 years or 13 and counting. It will be interesting to see what happens when it his my saturn and then jup in Aqu.

I think I am learnign how to turn this all into a good experience or posative one. Many feelings that others have posted are true and this can be a very good transit but my God is it hard.
I am trying to be the best mom to my adualt children. Love them very much. Venus in gemini 5th-2boys.

Isnt it ironic how fitting astrology is but I guess it is all up for conjecture. One more thing and I feel it has to do with jupiter is I get messges in songs or lyrics..tunes. I must have a angel with a sense of humor.

Of and as for angels, we all have angels, Guardian Angels but we also ahve guides. An in extreme situations there are lower level angels that asssit in form or come in the form of what we can understand as long as we listen which I have a hard time with... I believe this was also brought up on this thread...

Well, now that I have spilled my personal mind, I look forward to posting here. I have not seen an astrology thread in years that is really active.

Love and Blessings, Sunsine.

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#44 26 Dec 2009 01:21

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hello, I'm new to this board too.  I'm a Cancerian 11degrees Sun with a 0 degree Cap moon in the 8th house that has been feeling the Pluto transit big time for too long now.  I guess Christmas makes one emotional, especially a Cancerian with Mars/Uranus in Cancer in the 4th, Jupiter in the 4th in Leo  there too. 

As Pluto approached my moon (within 5 degrees applying) my Cancerian Mother passed away.  Lots of deception about her will (8th house) with my 3 sisters lying to me about it.  I had a difficult relationship with Mom, and my younger sister was the executor of the will and lied to me about finding a second will, with me receiving less than all of them.  Funny my Mom never mentioned this. 

Also, my sister received a "loan on her will" to the tune of $100,000, this too, was information denied to me, with no paperwork showing it.
Sounds like a bad movie of the week, doesn't it?

Well, now my father, who's 95 and been divorced from my Mom for decades now, is ill and failing and that same sister is, you guessed it, executor of his will too.
One burned, I trust no-one. 
My Dad gave me some money to buy a new house (moon) $ from Dad (8th house)  Sisters found out about it, got riled up and now my father is demanding payment back on his gift.  I cannot afford to pay him.  Power-struggle stalemate with Dad's inheritance money (8th house) and he's not even gone yet!!!

My natal cap moon is opposite my mercury/venus in Gemini in the 2nd - siblings?
My natual sun in Cancer in the 3d....my relationships with bros/sisters

Looking at Pluto through 2010, it retrogrades back to just under 2 degrees after going out to 5 Cap.  I really, really have had to deal with ancient childhood issues of trust, greed, slander, self-esteem, being called too sensitive, and honoring my razor intuition.  I have also had to grieve about the loss of trust/real love in my family, which I had deceived myself about all my life, always giving people the benefit of the doubt.  Can't trust my own family - always with uterior motives about power and money.  My brother has inherited my father's lucrative business, but is an alcoholic and abusive as well.  I tried for years to help him.  I've found this transit helping me to realize that the cost of their love is for me to remain powerless and not to stand up for myself.  I can't do this any longer.  The cost of not standing up for myself is to lose my soul. 
I'm trying hard to forgive them and deal with being without a family.  I don't have children of my own, and family has always been an elusive source of strength (Cancer/me)
Does this make sense to anyone out there?  Pennies.....okay a nickel for your thoughts.......

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#45 27 Dec 2009 07:01

Paula
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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

I can relate to much of what you share.  It sounds like you are coming to terms with some of your history, heritage.  Good for you!  Pluto in Capricorn seems to be bringing out some internal strengths of a singular, solo nature.  I feel it in my own life on some levels.  Long story, that.

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#46 28 Dec 2009 01:41

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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hi MoonLight, I can relate to your post. My 1 and only post was so long I could not even get to
all the family money issues.

"Can't trust my own family - always with uterior motives about power and money.  My brother has inherited my father's lucrative business, but is an alcoholic and abusive as well.  I tried for years to help him.  I've found this transit helping me to realize that the cost of their love is for me to remain powerless and not to stand up for myself.  I can't do this any longer.  The cost of not standing up for myself is to lose my soul."

Per your quote..I have found that I have to let go period. I have never done anything wrong to the people
I have loved in my family maybe except walk along time ago. My News years resolition was going to be...
If you do not respect me and wish me well...care about my life and feelings hit the road.

I think my mom will pass. My relationship with her has been very distant and basically, she is a horrible greedy person who  is only money, money, money... I reconnected with her when pluto hit cap because I wanted to
see if I was like her or if I could like her. Make sense? I am trying to make this a gentle departure. if this was Karma, I do not want to do it again smile

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#47 02 Jan 2010 21:19

Moonlight
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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Hi Sunsine,

Thanks for your post....helpful for me!  Letting go of my family of orgin has been so heartbreaking for me, but I can't keep playing the "Cancerian Martyr" which is so cliche for my sign.  I'm idealistic to a fault and want to believe that everyone always has my best interests at heart.  But money corrupts everybody, as does alcoholism.  People do sell their souls...then I wonder if they realize they still aren't happy...and was the cost worth it?
Being different from them is threatening, they cannot make me okay or they would have to examine their own actions and question themselves.  Much easier to make me wrong and not look at themselves.
I made peace with my Mom before she passed, only to realize later she re-wrote her will leaving me less than my other 3 sisters. Lots of competition for Mom's attention.  I also would question and challenge my Mom, something no one else would do, so I was "punished."   I have no regrets.  I believe I was supposed to be the one to question the status quo.
Pluto over my 8th house moon brought lots of family secrets about money to light, also power structures, power struggles and secrets.  Not pleasant.  But after airing it all out one feels cleaner. 
I'm wondering what the retrograde period will find next year.  My 95 year old father may pass....another will....another round of greed, jealousy, deceit, denial, etc.
But this time hopefully it won't hit me between the eyes....maybe I'll duck! smile

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#48 02 Jan 2010 22:27

Paula
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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

Moonlight, I'm sorry you experienced first hand a difficult time with the loss of a family member related to the will.

I used to work in the auction business with my husband.  Both of us have seen and been on the receiving end of the short stick, so to speak.  It's no fun.  I have watched many families go through WAY too much drama over death, wills, estate directions. 

The families that went through the loss of a family member with grace were few and far between, but a blessing.

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#49 04 Jul 2010 12:48

blonde_venus
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Re: Transiting Pluto Conjunct Moon

I have pluto/moon=square natally. I have also moon at 10th house (capricorn). what should I expect when transiting pluto conjuncts moon?? Does it mean that I won't have negative facts or big changes because I have pluto/moon square natally?

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