Node-o-rama

lioneye

if i had been born a few hours later, venus would've been in Aquarius, if i remember right.

I pondered over a lot if  my Venus feels more Cappy-like or more Aquarius-like... I can't tell really, .  as i already have a very very Saturnian chart, plus Aquarius Sun:o

anyway, thansk for letting me know this.

Kim

Heh, I know how you feel Silverdust. My asc Clocks in at 29*48' Scorpio. Would have been a Sagitarius ASC if I was born a minute later. Oh the horror....

So I've questioned the whole time thing as well but then again thinking about it, even if birth times aren't perfect one is 99% more likely to have been born a minute or two earlier than the listed birthtime than later.

But then again people who's ascendants change within the minute listed present a problem in and of themselves were they born at 12:10 and 0 seconds or 12:10 and 37 (when the sign changes).

I ran into the same problem of having Neptune in Sag in the 1st in aspect to my sun but then Venus in Scorpio in the 12th and Uranus in Scorpio in the 12th conjunct the asc.

I seem to strongly display both Sag and Scorpio characteristics. And both descriptions fit me very well...

Forever a never
Quite solved mystery

:uranus:Raven:uranus:

I think 29 degree planet is like a milder version of the sign its under...things are  winding down and at 29 its at its least concerned with full throttle of  the sign matters YET still there..so characteristics and concerns of the next sign...(especially by way of Progressed chart).  But...at time same time like a full moon where all things finally reach the end, climax, friuation for better or worse...more or less. IF you have other planets that sign then the characteristics of that are re-enforced..so you might not notice or feel that the interpretations apply. I've found some of the interpretations to be applicable personally and as well you have to look at the aspects involved with the planet in question and too how a person uses and deals with their life is another thing. A teen would be at a different stage as a new born..as a 50 year old even if they all have 29 degree Sun for example. Its easy enough I guess to check out what is said about the 29th degree and just honestly see if it rings a bell. If you are interested...here is a bit of info to explore from the book "Predictive Astrology" (Sakoian & Acker). It also goes into the significance of the latest degree in your chart..which for 29th degree people should be interesting because it has the same kind of bearing as the Anaretic/29th degree...in that it deals with showing how we experience endings and where they impact.  Anyway, see below in quotes the info about 29 degree:

"If a planet is found in the final degree of any sign, theis from 29 to 30 of the sign , it is posited in and Anaretic Degree, commoly labelled a "Fate Degree". The matters influenced by a planet in this degree have reached a critical phase of delvelopment and must be dealt with. The affairs ruled by a planet in an Anaretic Degree must be handled at the appointed times-when the planet is activated by major predictive factors, such as transits and eclipes".
So the idea is that at this poing that is  some unfinished business or something to wrap up and that this urgency should ideally be felt upon major transit especially and of course faced/not ignored if possible.

have natal saturn at 29 aquarius, conjunct the cusp of my 6th house. don't know yet what it means.

wow thx crimson. you formulate that nicely. i work as a translator and am into writing as well (moon at 28 gemini, conjunct MC) -- but i am also a certified
massagetherapist and used to volunteer doing bodywork with HIV+ people and psychiatric patients. got my mars in pisces in 6 too.

for now i am not doing anything in the healing sector, all focusing on that moon in gemini at this point. but i've been thinking recently that some day i should take  up massage/energy work again.   i think i need both the writing practice and the healing practice.

my saturn makes a perfect trine with my moon/MC, btw.   

also, i have some freaky health problems due to  injured neck vertebrae. think that's saturn in aquarius too.  but tehn, what difference does it make in this regard that it's at the 29th degree?

also, for my own health problems, all my experiences with western medicin have been very negative. but  i've been helped tremendously by shiatsu and homeopathy - non conventional (aquarian) medicin. maybe that's the saturn in aquarius too?

thank you arturamus. haven't tried acupuncture yet, but had already decided to try it in case my problem worsens. currently i get a shiatsu treatment, which is similar to acupuncture (without the needles, but using the principle of energy meridians).

as for the hospitals in my life, my dad was a doctor and several of my aunts and uncles (6th house) committed suicide and/or were alcoholics. As for myself, i've had a few times diseases that could have become life-threatening, but somehow luck always was on my side and i always recovered fast.

my moon is at 28 gemini, so not yet at that anaretic degree. so it's slightly off topic here. but you ask what it feels like -  it feels like, very mutable. not only it's in gemini, but it's conjunct the MC, and is the apex of a mutable Tsquare. at my best, i am very flexible and easygoing and interested in plenty of things and know something about plenty of things and have a gift with languages. But at my worst, it's extremely difficult for me to stay focused long enough on one thing to do something productive with it.  My mind is very much like a butterfly that goes from flower to flower. And so am I as a person, I guess. My Aries sun doesn't  bring depth and grounding either, I'm afraid.  but I guess the trine with saturn does help. besides, it's the only trine i have in my chart, if I recall well. hehe, i suddenly realize i'm grateful for that saturn.

Bringing this thread back!!

Thought it was interesting how my sister has natally Jupiter Rx in Taurus/7H at 29 degrees.

1)She's had 3 VERY close calls to getting married...She very abruptly called them all off, after booking all the caterers, band, etc.
Not following through/impulsiveness is very out of her typical logical character.

2) Off topic, her Jupiter is close to malefic Algol fixed star.
Her hot temper is most obvious when w/ boyfriends.
Oddly, Algol is associated with neck injuries/hangings too...Ex-fiance strangled her during an intense fight.


3) Dad's ASC Ruler is 29 degrees, Merc/Sag/8th- His first impression to people is definitely split personality to the max..Everyone suspects some serious pyschological issues, the extremes from nice to cruel. Merc rules his 5th too, most def. obvious with how he treated his kids, and "get rich quick" gambles.

I also have ascendant in 29th of Libra.  I searched endlessly for some info and this is the first to be of any real insight to me.  The real-life scenarios and experiences are all very interesting. 

I always thought I was Scorpio rising, and that did seem to apply to me as far as physical appearance.  (except for one fleeting dimple that shows up in certain facial expressions)  It did not; however, seem to apply in a personality sense.  The complexity of astrology is the thing that draws and yet repels me.  I love to analyze, which I attribute to my virgo moon, but then get muddled up in the details and become frustrated with the whole thing.  I have a love/hate relationship with organizational skills - I want to be organized but just don't feel like doing the work.  I guess it's laziness, but I'm not sure which of the planets in my natal chart would indicate that.

My SUn is 29 Degree Cancer but my Asc  is 0degrees Gemini...This would not give me any Earth in my chart at all...So I have been thinking about this the last couple of years...and now I am feeling that maybe I am 29degrees Taurus rising... In social situations I think I come off more calm and grounded rather than chatty. Also this earth would also line my 7th H up with Scorpio and most men and good friends I have been involved with have all had strong Scorpio streaks...Thirdly I think that I see the world through my senses and art and beauty first over intellectualizing everything...Even though my sun and mercury are in my 3rd H so this also gives me a bit of a Gemini flavour...Hmmm

This is still such an interesting topic to me, I'll probably be bumping it off and on for years to come, lol!

I keep coming back to this subject because it's one of those I have found to be a matter of opinion.  There seem to be more definitive guidelines when it comes to planets in the 29th, but when its your asc, the info varies so much.  I wanted to share something I read on another forum that made me laugh and gave me some perspective: someone posted a question about the very same thing; they also had the 29th degree of Libra rising and wanted to know - Am I a Libra or Scorpio?
Someone answered - I think you are a Scorpio, but probably nicer about it.  :-)  Thought that was cute, and pretty accurate when I think of my own personality!  (Sometimes, not so nice.  I can be quite a hot-head...always thought it was Mars & Mercury conjunct in Leo!)

One of the problems I've had is determining the ruler of the chart.  Venus, Mars, Pluto?  This must be why they say it is not easy to read your own chart.

Well, this is where it gets confusing for me... one of many areas of confusion!  If I can read my asc as 29 Libra (and I am fairly sure of the time...it is on my birth certificate, although I know that means little)  The ruler of the chart would be Venus, which is in the 8th house which is the natural house of Scorpio.  Therefore, it is kind of expected for both energies to be there.  To make matters worse - Saturn conjuncts Venus in the 8th - in Gemini, no less!  So, it's like I am on the fence between these two(Libra and Scorpio) and when I dwell on it I am confronted with more duality  and indecision.  Of course, that makes me think more Libra, with a Saturnian constriction.

The fact that Pluto is also in the 29th in my natal chart, in Virgo, activates Scorpio tendencies.  I read that the two constellations are very close to one another and that seemed to resonate with me.  I truly feel that vacillating between the two is my reality.  For some reason, I cant find peace unless I am searching and researching.  Or plain ol' denial - which is handy is so many situations! 

Wow, you are spot on about the shades.  I go nowhere without them - unless they are broken or lost, which is often!  It's interesting you mention the 7th house.  Obviously, the sign on the cusp of mine is Aries 29... but it could be Taurus as ruler?  I dont know, I think I have one friend who is Taurus and no romantic relationships with any.  My 7th is empty.  I've been happily married for 12 yrs but this is the only serious relationship I've had so it kinda makes sense.  He's a Cap with Saturn/Moon conjunct in Gemini... I always think our relationship is reflected in my eighth with the Saturn/Venus conjunct. 

Thanks for the insight.  Amazing how sometimes it's easier for someone else to see the forest thru the trees!

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Last edited by Cairn (23 Jun 2010 18:34)