Node-o-rama

Firstly, is the good news that Saturn has been in yr house for 1.5 years now, and so should be relenting somewhat soon with all its precious "lessons?"  The first year has usually been the hardest for me of any Saturn transit, as the area of hard work required manifests and I learn whatever the heck skill it is I need to know to tackle the task at hand.

I haven't had Saturn in the 10th since 1982 and when it hit me then I also had Neptune on the ASC. So I was REALLY messed up in terms of what I wanted to do (right out of college too :C) I had three false starts in the next two years, a lot of tears (that would be Neptune) and very little logical planning. Luckily however, one particular thing that I studied during the transit as stress relief, proved to be Very Important for that fourth work career which lasted a good 20 years... but that didn't kick in till about 1985-6.   

So if there is anything you have been thinking of doing in terms of study or self-application related to your work, or ANY work, well, if you have the time and energy to pursue it, maybe such a study would pay off for you as well?

Hello Newmoon, I’m sorry Saturn in the 10th is proving so tricky. Well done on taking a decision to freelance it for a while, it can’t have been an easy one.

Being mixed up in the cardinal t-square isn’t helping, is it. Do you have the Feb March Mountain Astrologer? There’s a very good article in it by Bill Herbst — about those of us with natal points triggered by the t-square — at the least it’s good to know we’re not alone.

My natal Pluto in 10th is at 29VIR, so soon to be visited by retrograding Saturn, while my nMoon at 2CAP is also going through it with the cardinal t-square.

Like you, I have Saturn natally in the 6th, Pluto in the 10th. I’m feeling wretched career-wise. Lifelong themes of poor self-confidence and feeling like carrion-fodder. As though all around me are career crows with beady black eyes and strong, merciless beaks. My job is tiny and temporary contract. I know I do what I am currently doing very well, but the nature of my job makes it very easy for a job done well to be seen as a job done poorly. It’s tricky. I need a strong team around me, but the team is picking itself apart due to internal politics. There is a definite risk of being scapegoated, which I must do my best to avoid.

How is your health (Saturn natally in 6th)? I ask because I’ve recently had / am having a major health scare that rattled a lot of other things into perspective, and has actually made my perception of my career situation a bit brighter.

Anyway, I’m thinking of you. Sorry I’m not able to give you a perspective from the other side. Just to know you’re not alone.

Bests.

Hi Gin

I'm sorry to hear about your health scare. My health is one of the reasons I quit  - nothing (touch wood) major wrong but I'm so stressed I can't eat, sleep, breathe, night sweats, cold sweats, can't concentrate. When I do manage to sleep I wake up nearly vomiting from worry. I'm hoping now I've resigned that will all ease up.

I've just had Saturn over my Pluto at 1 degree Libra and soon it will be in exact square to my Moon. So yes, we seem to be in similar boats!

I don't get the Mountain Astrologer. I'll have to scrounge around for that interview.

Your job sounds tricky. I am also in a 'scapegoat' position. I'm working with someone who isn't capable, and I was told that was why I was there - but he earns three times my salary and he's rude to me! There's no way I'm putting up with that. Now they're trying to get me to stay. I guess that way they won't have to deal with the actual problem - he schmoozes the big bosses and they just ignore the fact that he can't actually do his job. The big boss actually sent me an SMS these evening to ask me if I would change my mind and stay at the company but work with a different editor. I said no way - I've told them repeatedly that there is a problem, and they've been telling me I need to chill and they've just ignored my situation - why would I stay at a place like that when it's been made so clear to me that when I bring up issues they won't be addressed. Now they're panicking and asking me to stay. It's pathetic.

When does your contract end? Is there a possibility of it becoming long term?

Hello again Newmoon. So, ‘the big boss’ (what a Saturn thing) wants you to act as Saturnine foundations, propping up another’s incompetence. Marvellous.

You’re right, we are in similar boats on different seas. Do you have the feeling that the Pluto square we’ve both recently had prepared the ground for Saturn with all the subtlety of a steak-tenderising mallet?

Newmoon wrote:

My health is one of the reasons I quit  - nothing (touch wood) major wrong but I'm so stressed I can't eat, sleep, breathe, night sweats, cold sweats, can't concentrate. When I do manage to sleep I wake up nearly vomiting from worry.

Saturn natally in the sixth does often seem to manifest health problems. Think it’s a sort of polite cough to get us to take action on the parts highlighted by its transits that we might be trying to avoid facing. I hope you start to feel better very soon.

AquaAlex (hello) has got me thinking. Other areas where I’m ‘seen’ and have a reputation (10th) are going well, it’s just that I struggle to value them adequately because there is no financial reward attached to them (Cappy Moon in 2nd talking, much). There’s a lesson here.

My job couldn’t become permanent, could last a few years or could end next week, as it is attached to individuals for as long as their situation remains the same. Part of it will definitely end in July. Thing is, I’m overqualified for it. Were I to take a step into the unknown, refresh old qualifications and take a little risk, things would change. I’ve painted myself into a corner over the years. I think these transits are telling me that the paint is dry now and it’s safe to leave. In fact, should I try not to leave, the option of staying will be removed. Does any of this make sense with your current circumstance?

You’re making the change and I salute you for it. Bet Saturn and Pluto do too — you’re certainly honouring the transit. What is it that Bernadette Brady says to people who come to her in pieces, with big transits? "Congratulations, you’re doing the astrology really well" .

Newmoon wrote:

AquaAlex - thanks for the positive spin.

Did you have any 'challenging' transits while Saturn was transiting your 10th? Or did Saturn make good aspects to your natal planets?

Aspects during my Saturn 10th transit:

Saturn conj. Natal Mars.
Saturn sextile Natal Moon.
Saturn trine Natal Venus
Saturn square Natal Sun
Saturn square Natal Asc
Saturn square Natal Jupiter

So it was pretty heavy in terms of aspects.  I also had Jupiter transiting the 10th during the time (just checked) so I guess that's where the good stuff came from.

Gin, my Pluto square Pluto happened (and is still going on) at sort of the same time as Pluto cnj Moon and ASC, and Uranus cnj Mars and square Sun - so I can't really separate out the Pluto square Pluto, but yes I feel like I've been hit with a sledgehammer. And also like I keep getting messed over, like you say.
I have a Pluto-Mars-Sun/Moon/ASC T-square - with the Moon at 29 Sag and ASC at 3 Cap - and the T-square just keeps getting activated by the Saturn-Pluto square.
During the start of the Pluto Moon cnj I felt like I'd been turned inside out. Like a squid before you cook it.

I'm hoping the rough times will ease up once the Saturn square Moon moves on. Then we'll have Uranus square Moon to contend with!
I realised it's also since Uranus started opposing my MC that my work life hasn't stayed that stable. But now it's 12 degrees past that opposition.

Hi Zephyr

I also have Pluto and Uranus in the 10th house natally  - and like your brother-in-lw, I am experiencing burnout. It's not a great situation but I am hugely relieved that I've quit my job.

Newmoon

^It's weird because I find Jupiter is such a weird planet.  It brought ZERO of its magic to my 7th house when it transited Aquarius.  It's really doing absolutely nothing in my 8th right now.  I remember my 1st house and 5th house Jupiter transits had some Jupiterness to them (I gained weight but was very happy and magnanimous during the 1st and had a lot of fun times and two flings during the 5th . . . and wrote two plays).  I'm having the Pluto Square now and a Saturn-Saturn square as well.  It's tough, but really not overwhelming.  Entered a 12 step program this year and doing a lot of work around some personal issues, so I feel I have a safe structure to work on my issues and effect change.  But mostly I feel like I'm just slugging through a lot of personal muck and wanting to bring some change into my life, but feeling overwhelmed and mired in piles of dead psychic weight.  Doing everything I can do and turning things over to the universe.   The stars haven't been too generous with me these last few years

^

hang in there!  This is very heavy energy with Pluto, Saturn and Uranus, but they are also powerful planets capable of great things and great transformation.   

Hi Igorchi

I am sorry to hear you are ill - I also got quite sick when I quit my job start April, but it cleared up after a week.

I think about moving away from the city all the time!

Do you have any planets in the 10th? Saturn transiting my 10th is coming up to its last hit of squaring my Moon in the 12th and conjuncting my Pluto in the 10th. I am in the process of trying to change careers so it will be interesting to see what happens.

Newmoon

What date is your birthday?

I also have Uranus and Pluto in the 10th house, Saturn in the 6th house. My birth date is 18 December 1971.

Really interesting how that square is playing out for you, igorchi.  Welcome to the forum!