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Jackson is our foster doggie, a one-year-old Pit Bull.
In a nutshell, I love this dog. He is so cool. We cannot keep him, but we have been training him, and he is so cool. Except for this one potentially destructive "hangup" he has around food. Due to abandonment, or aggression from other pups, whatever. He aggressively guards his food, sometimes even against people (he has only done this when we're not around). Am I idealistic in thinking that with love and a lot of work, he can heal this issue and no longer be a dangerous dog?
The shelter is discussing having him put down. And other options like pit bull rescue, another foster home, or John and I continuing to work with him. Of course I do not think the shelter should allow anyone, even us, to adopt this dog, if there's any question as to whether he's dangerous. But still, I feel like he can still be rehabilitated. He's a great dog. I have been doing lots of Reiki on him.
Here's a web page I built for Jackson:
http://mindfuldesigns.com/jackson
And here's the chart of the question as it formed in my mind:
Location is Charlottesville, VA
I am too emotional now to try to read the chart, but I'll be most happy to give very detailed feedback.
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Molly,
I think Jackson would be Mars, ruler of 6th house, animals smaller than a goat. jackson's eating problem could be ruled by Saturn, ruler of the 2nd house from the 6th. Since Saturn is about to go direct, that could be a change in his condition in some manner.
I don't like the look of the turned 8th from the 6th being ruled by Moon (cancer on cusp) and the radical 8th having Moon in it. But, I think that Moon applying to 8th cusp would be much worse. It could just be an indicator of your concerns that he would be euthanised, not an indicator that it will actually happen.
It looks like Moon's last aspect was a sextile to mercury and next would be sextile POF. both of those in Aries, ruled by mars, significator of jackson. (so like it's in his power....)
My son used to have a rottweiler that was homeless and found our son's home by wandering. He had major problems, including an eating problem. Our son worked with him and trained him to sit and NOT eat until he was told he could, even when the food was in front of the dog. this was necessary because the dog was SO big/huge that he would knock people over to get to the food, probably some from having gone without and getting so thin when homeless. It took awhile but he got to where he would sit for even up to five minutes, with the food in front of him, waiting for the signal that it was o.k. to eat. I think he also used a hand signal of some sweeping nature along with a command to release the dog.
I hope it goes well for Jackson. If we just look at where Mars is going.....Mars will conjunct Uranus/North Node, then eventually move into Aries, its own sign........one would think that might be a positive indicator. South node on the 4th is a little discouraging to the matter, but then, if he has to leave your home, that would be another adjustment for him, and could be all SN represents there.
Saturn rules three houses here and rules Jackson's fourth house. it is located in Jackson's 10th house, and is about to turn direct. The S.D. period could be iffy and tough, but the trine to retrograding Jupiter might be a lucky placement for him. I will hope for the best for him!
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We are waiting to hear if the pit bull rescue folks will take him. If they do, we may continue to foster him. We will just be doing so under the auspices of pit bull rescue rather than the local SPCA. I am committed to doing everything I can for my friend. It's the only way I'll be able to make peace with it if he does end up being put down.
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thank you for the update. I hope it goes well.
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Oh Paula. I'm so sad.
This morning, Jackson chased and caught a possum. I called him, and he came right away. I put him indoors and went to look at the possum. It looked like it was dying. And I thought, what if that was someone's kitty? The possum eventually got up and walked off. But I have read that once that hunting instinct kicks in, there's no turning back. I think he's probably going to be euthanized. I am beside myself with grief and guilt. I feel like I failed him. I didn't know how to manage a dog, and now he has to die.
I am definitely feeling like the Saturn-ruled 8th house Moon hanging out with Chiron and having to look at this Aquarius-objectively. Consequences. Ouch.
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Molly, many dogs chase and catch things. My dog Shadow was found eating the remnants of a squirrel in our backyard. She is a meek natured dog, but loves to chase squirrels. True, what if it was a kitty, but I don't think catching the possum means Jackson is hopeless. Just my opinion. Although, pit bulls are very notorious for bad behavior, from what I've heard (sometimes on court TV which my husband likes to watch while eating lunch).
It is always darkest before the dawn. A kitty IS different than a possum. Let's hope Jackson manages the boundaries of such decisions and navigates himself into a better life on earth.
On another subject, do you ever think about heaven for dogs and cats? I just love animals and it seems their soul, their essence cannot die. It is unthinkable! Saturn ruled 8th house Moon huh? I've noticed EVERY time the transiting Moon goes over my Natal Saturn (just hours right after my lunar return) I am depressed, or struggle not to be. I feel for you!
One time we had a Sharpei dog. He was very overprotective of our family. He loved us, would die for us, but if our kids had friends over, he would growl and nip and try to bite them. It was heartbreaking, but we had to either put him down or find him a home. Everyone who came to look at him, he tried to bite. We told our son (it was "his" dog) that if we didn't find a home for him in the next 24 hours, we'd have to put him down. Our son accepted that, but he cried alot about it. The next morning, we got a call from a little old lady. She was all excited! She came to look, and he snarled and lunged and tried to bite her. She said, "oh, he's just perfect!" She wanted to take him out on a leash. We looked at each other and were puzzled. My husband asked her, "Are you sure????" (as in, are you crazy?) She said, "oh yes!". She ran him fast on a tight leash, up and down the road for 20 minutes. At the end of that time, his tongue was hanging out, his head was leaning into her leg, and he looked like he had given up on trying to bite her. She was ecstatic. She wanted a nice guard dog for a large estate that was well fenced. She had no children and wanted no visitors. She had a husband and she seemed kind. It seemed too good to be true. We loaded the dog up into her vehicle, wincing as he growled at her from the backseat, but yet, it was a much sweeter, more half hearted growl than before. As they pulled out, his head was on her shoulder. It was a bit strange, but what a relief! Perhaps something equally as good will happen for you! I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and wishing you the best.
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Wow Paula, that's a great, heartwarming and kooky story.
Over here in NZ possums aren't cute backyard critters but pests that the local authorities spend a lot of money on trying to control (kill).
Molly, I feel for you. We too had a dog in our family (when I was in my late teens) that was over-protective and nippy. A German Shepherd (Alsatian). She even ate the neighbour's pet rabbit that had escaped onto our lawn (doh!). We actually used the services of an animal psychologist to help retrain her - something we (family) needed to continue. We were doing okay until a city counsellor's wife was practically trespassing on our property and got a fang in her butt. So it was bye bye Dana the dog, which was sad, b/c she had made a whole heap of progress and the nip wasn't entirely unprovoked.
Actually, that reminds me that our first German Shep was a reject from police dog school. Dad was so terrified of Czar that he was shut outside and we (small) kids weren't allowed anywhere near him. In fact, dad used to throw Czar's meat out through the window to him at feeding time and he was on the verge of giving him back. Then dad picked up a rake out in the yard and the dog cowered, and dad realised Czar had been abused and was more terrified of us than we were of him. Thankfully, he was still young enough to learn to trust us. He turned into the biggest softie in the world and really smoochy with us kids. We had him from a pup til old age.
Fingers crossed for your darling Jackson, too, Molly.
x
Sarah
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Jackson is still here. I talked to the director of the SPCA about getting him into a Pit Bull Rescue group. That was weeks ago, and I still haven't heard anything back. I guess no news is good news..? We can't adopt him (John doesn't want a dog), but we can foster him for as long as it takes. And that's a good thing that he has going for him.
We changed his training methods. The training regimen the SPCA gave us was directly opposed to another philosophy that has been working for Jackson in other areas. The methods we learn by watching DVDs of the Dog Whisperer work really well for Jackson. One of the big things we learned was not to give the dog affection when he's anxious, afraid, or excited. But the SPCA had us petting him as he ate. I think we were intensifying his anxiety around food. So we quit doing that, and he has been happier.
He is getting pretty good with walking on a leash, and he has a new frisbee. He even caught it in mid-air once.
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Have you ever heard of the Monks of New Skete? There are tapes and a book about dog raising with their methods. These monks take animals in and train them, and their book, "How to be your dog's Best Friend" is really good. The tapes have a similar theme. I kept my book but sold our tapes after we watched them. They sold on Ebay for maybe 10 bucks for all three tapes. New, the set costs alot more.
I learned alot from the tapes and the book, although I skipped through the book and didn't read it cover to cover. Some of what was in the book I didn't adopt, such as letting the dog sleep at the foot of my bed. (dogs love the scent of their humans) Mostly because the few times this was tried, she woke me up alot and neither she nor we slept as well. (Shadow normally sleeps on the landing of our stairs going up to the bedroom)
It sounds like you've found a good solution for now, and the Dog Whisperer DVDS sound interesting. (something else to try someday)
You're going to be so in love with him soon you won't want to find him a home, which could present problems. I hope things work out soon for you to place him in a permanent home: it would be so much better for him and for you if he has to move on. I just reread the earlier post on the chart to refresh my memory. If you really want to find him a home, the few days before Saturn and Jupiter trine might be good ones to focus on that goal. If you can catch that energy for him at the right time, maybe he'll be placed somewhere really good for him.
I'm surprised the SPCA said to pet him while he was eating. I think in general dogs like to be left alone when they eat, but I could be wrong. That sounds like off advice. I'm glad you changed the regimen and he's doing better. You make me want to meet him, and I am not real fond of Pit Bulls as a breed.
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We heard from the SPCA director finally. She heard from the woman she was trying to contact at pit bull rescue. The rescue woman has a newborn baby, and she is considering taking Jackson into her home to observe him.
We really are okay with finding him a home. We love him, but we recognize that he is difficult, and there are things about him that are dangerous. A neighborhood kid wandered by the other day. Very nice kid, but not so good around dogs. He wanted to play frisbee with Jackson. It went okay for a while. Jackson was visibly not so keen on a stranger taking his frisbee from him though. Eventually, he snapped at the kid. He minds me really well, and I called him off immediately. But incidents like this scare me.
Thanks for the book and tape recommendations, Paula. I will look for them in the library and on Netflix.
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So far, so good Molly! I am thrilled for you. It must be hard to find the balance between keeping pesky kids away from Jackson and gently socializing him around strangers and children. But if anyone can do it it's La Saturnisma!
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We finally heard from the rescue group, and it looks like Jackson will be taken in for evaluation by a real dog trainer who specializes in aggression. He will live in her house with her for at least a couple of weeks. I don't know what happens after that, but whatever it is, I trust he'll be in good hands. It's up to him now.
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That's great, Molly. It sounds like you've given the perfect loving environment to prepare him for this - including carefully supervised real-world situations. Fingers crossed!
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Sarah, thank you so much for your words of encouragement.
Paula wrote:
On another subject, do you ever think about heaven for dogs and cats? I just love animals and it seems their soul, their essence cannot die. It is unthinkable! Saturn ruled 8th house Moon huh? I've noticed EVERY time the transiting Moon goes over my Natal Saturn (just hours right after my lunar return) I am depressed, or struggle not to be. I feel for you!
Paula, I do think about what happens to their spirits after they die. Not so much about heaven. The idea of heaven doesn't resonate with me. That whole Rainbow Bridge thing makes me cry, and I hate it for doing that. What a cheap shot!
But I do believe the spirit lives on, and that they don't wait around for us at some Rainbow Bridge. They come back.
Yesterday (around 1:35 pm if anyone's interested), I was looking at this blog: http://scamperdude.blogspot.com/2007/06/t-kittens.html
I was looking at the kittens, thinking, aw, how cute. Until I got to the last picture of the kitten sucking on the person's hand with claws extended. I thought, wow, she's a lot like Boogins (http://north-node.com/blog/boogins) was at that age. Boogins was weaned too early, and she "suckled" her whole life. First, on me or cloth or whatever, until she found her toe. As an adult, she still would suck her toe (with admirable gusto) and knead with her claws.
Then it was like a flash bulb went off in my heart. And I was in tears. Oh my god, what if that's Boogins? When Boogins died, I had a confab with her spirit, and told her if she could find her way back, she could come be with me again. I'm going to continue to keep an eye on that blog and that kitten. I'll give it some time to make sure it isn't just Neptune messing with me.
John and I had been discussing maybe, possibly, getting a second cat. Stevie is going to be bored when Jackson leaves.
I left a comment, and the blog owner probably thinks I'm a total nut.
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Speaking of being perceived as a total nut ...
Our friend Anita Curtis is a really good animal communicator. You can Google her. She's helped us out with our animals. I think animals reincarnate like us.
2 of our cats are the same cats as before but different bodies now.
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Wow! that's great, Molly. Hope Jackson does well and becomes a survivor, happy and well adjusted.
Yeh, it's hard to picture heaven sometimes. Not sure what you mean about Rainbow bridge. My brain is not functioning lately. Neptune has been squaring my M.C. and stationed in a square. IT JUST NOW DAWNED ON ME. DUH! No wonder I've been so totally confused. About everything.
gotta run, another dental appointment.
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Sorry, Paula, look here: http://rainbowsbridge.com/Poem.htm
If it's true, Boogie would be at the rainbow bridge hissing at my other dead pets and hiding at the top of the refrigerator. (So they must have refrigerators at Rainbow Bridge.) She didn't like other animals, cats or dogs. Except for Rudy the cat, who died when she was still a kitten. And one of my dead cats would surely have eaten my dead bunnies by now. Not to mention the gerbils I had when I was 12, and Hermie the hermit crab. It's an awful picture! Where on earth will they put the fish tank?!!
Another thing that annoys me about the Rainbow Bridge is the waiting. I don't plan to be dead for a long time! And it seems kind of human-centric to have in your belief system that all your animals' souls don't have anything better to do than wait around for you to die so you can all go to heaven together.
My pets don't exist for my enjoyment, in life or in death. They have their own lives and their own karma. Sure, our paths are entwined, but.. you know.. it's not all about ME.
I'm sorry to be so blasphemous and curmudgeonly about the Rainbow Bridge. It's a beautiful story, and I know it means a lot to many people. What I hate most about it is that it makes me cry, every time. Stupid Rainbow Bridge!!
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OH!
I can't imagine that. Wouldn't work. There would be too many who had to all share and get along and I'd go crazy. I've had very lovely pets many times in my life, but I wouldn't want to see them ALL in one place at the same time. I would lose my mind! It is tear provoking, and makes me remember good (animal) friends now not here. We used to have goats. At one time, we had 25 of them. One, in particular, I came to love. Her name was Kim. She was a Toggenburg, and the coyotes chased her up on a cliff and she plummeted to her death below. It was very sad to find her. She still had her collar on. Goats are alot like a dog in their ability to relate to humans. We had cats, dogs, chickens, goats, geese, ducks, horses, etc. So where would you draw the line with the rainbow bridge? I agree with you, and I don't see it as blasphemous, just your opinion/feeling.
I always want to cry when I think of my pets now gone.
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wow. many delays for sure. Hope it works out! is this the evaluator or an actual new home?
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Sorry Paula. We took him to a kennel where an evaluator would come and work with him. It isn't the best of circumstances. The evaluator has a new baby and limited time. We heard from her a few weeks later, and she said she tried, but couldn't get him to exhibit any of these aggressive behaviors. Since then, we haven't had any news of his progress. We don't know whether he's alive or dead, even.
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well, let's hope for the best for him, then!
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Sorry to hear that, Molly.
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