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Can someone tell me what Target is please?

Thanks
Newmoon

Ah, thank you.

Isthmus,
My question was part fun, part sincere.  I do think the biggest problem with the US is that we are reliant upon consumerism. That is what drives us.  But in my mind we need to be more that supplying goods to each other here.. it needs to be universal.  Having said that, isn't China making everything for everyone?   I know the intellectual properties is big here but with the internet and with pirates...the entertainment business which is our biggest intellectual area (so to speak) is easy to rip off.   And then there is the war, that I guess makes a lot of money for someone.  Not me. But someone.  sigh.

oh, yeah the US makes a lot of cigarettes.  we can take pride in that, I guess.

Btw
Is anyone here aware of that in the last 101 years
the purchasing power of the USD is decreased by 95%?
Check it up if you dont believe it.
Its the same for most fiat currencies.

Im sorry to say Nester,
you are looking on at least 1000 US banks collapsing/ merging withing 2 years, complete moral revival, decreased living standards, collapse of the middle class.
For your comfort, it is worldwide.

There are more than 900 trillions USD, only in the derivatives market, that are being destructed these days.
The meltdown is huge and imminent.

Some clues:
Debt deflation
Monetary inflation
Moral Hazard
Credit card withdrawals
Energy crisis
Real US inflation closing 14% (check shadowstats.com), bec the US gov is, unfortunately and blatantly lying
Massive multibillion USD and euro injections into markets
Close to impossible to get a loan
Nouriel Roubini
Death threats of Meredith Whitney at Oppenheimer for predicting this mess
AMBAC, MBIA, WAMU
The treasury chief is the ex boss of the only remaining bank getting down on his knees in congress and begging for a bailout of the mistakes he made and for his pig friends.

I will stop now.
Sorry if I scared or offended anyone.
Still, it is the obvious truth, and it is too late to stop it.

take precautions!
best of luck to all!

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WaterLily wrote:

Michael Lutin just posted his Pluto in Capricorn piece that he published in Vanity Fair two years ago.  If I remember correctly, he published this instead of his regular monthly column because he felt it was too important to not talk about. Very interesting stuff:

http://www.michaellutin.com/futureofamericavf.htm

yes, he did.  I was so proud, in that astrologer cheering on another astrologer, that he did it.  He gave everyone fair warning. I sent the link to everyone I knew back then in January of 07.

Thanks for posting the Lutin article, WaterLily.

Intellectual property is huge. It includes academic/private R&D, various engineering industries like biotech and pharmaceuticals, IT and software, financial services, branding and marketing, so on and so forth.

My husband and I participated in a "caucus" vote in Washington state years ago.  We were enabled to be a part of the process fairly far into it because WE SHOWED UP.  Alot of people get into power because they showed up!  Or because they ran for office.  skills aren't necessarily required to get far in the process, oftentimes.  It's really too bad. 

One would hope that candidates from all sides would have strong ethics and be of good moral fibre (as in honest, trustworthy, etc) but that's just way too much to hope for in politics.

Stardancer, keep on sounding the alarm... just because people aren't posting doens't mean they aren't reading... 

OMG   I just read these lines from the Lutin article... cannot BELIEVE he wrote this in '07, when it seemed incredible the government would own a car company... "When the government becomes business and business becomes government, the people will fight back, and the ensuing struggle will lead to the eventual transformation and rebirth of America."

Excellent Lutin article!

I see from the early part of this thread that people are questioning the timing of this insane-looking transit.

I took a great astro class a few years back with some other local enthusiasts, and we discussed the upcoming doom-n-gloom at great length. And our teacher pinpointed a date that makes an awful lot of sense. 

It's June 26, 2010. Check it out.  The Sat/Pluto/Ur square will be almost exact: Sat will be retrograding (or returning, sorry) around 1 Lib (28 Vir), Pluto will be at 4 Cap and Ur will be just at 0.33 Aries, with Jupiter conjunct.

But the kicker here is the full moon eclipse on that date, which brings Mercury to 2 Cancer. Presto!

http://cafeastrology.com/daily/lunareclipsejun2010.gif

What do you all think?

Quite frankly, the month before, Venus also opposes 4 Cap If I'm remembering correctly), but Venus rarely acts as the timer for events.

And I did check the US national chart (I believe in the Sco Asc), and our Venus is, if I remember correctly, heavily involved. I think it's at 2 Can. Or 2 of Lib. Whatever. It's in the square. Not that the "disaster" will just be US-based, but who the hell knows? It's a good bet that it could start here, and trickle down.

We all know the prophecies. I"m interested in unpacking them a bit, if you are (is this a global collapse? of what nature? Ur in Aries could be an Internet-lead revolution), and also investigating the role Neptune will play, she will also be at 1 of Pisces soon, excellently placed for a revolution, and trining and sextiling the square.

What d'ya'll think? I'm actually salting some extra food away already, and contemplating the purchase of an electronic motorbike, though then wonder if I'm not a bit paranoid... A few months back, I saw a film called 'Collapse" here in LA, a (somewhat paranoid) journalist who portends the collapse of our oil-based system, says there's no oil left. There was something to what he said, actually. Though when I thought about it, I realized that there was lots of oil in Russia... And Neptune in Pisces portends more oil, I think, not less.

Have you all seen the push by the Huffington Post to put our money in credit unions, and screw the banks? Check it out!

A62

Last edited by Aries62 (19 Feb 2010 23:13)

Has everyone seen this?
I just saw this...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline … /#morelink

Part of me hopes Pluto in Cap means the demise of patriarchy. Actually .. all of me does.
It's possible that what we call intelligence in men is really arrogance.
It makes my blood boil this woman isn't given her dues from this gov't.
They Are Still Not Listening!

I'd imagine that Jupiter and Uranus conjuncting on the Aries point will signify some kind of event.

If you want to address a potential meltdown in the U.S., what do Jupiter and Uranus represent in the U.S. (or really anywhere / thing that's big - a country, a system, the world). It looks like we'll have the beginning of something (the Aries energy) combined with the end of something (Neptune in Pisces). They'll probably work in synergy, no?

I'd like to know where stardancer is putting his (?) money...

I am not a stock person, nor investor, nor investment advisor.
All I am saying is major changes are ahead and you better prepare.
Cues for 2010 and beyond:
- food and resource scarcity
- peak oil
- default of sovereign states and countries
- government power grab; air port controls, currency controls, Moussoulini ring any bells?

you better revive this topic for your own protection or you will be just another sheep in the herd...

best of luck!

Aries62 wrote:

Excellent Lutin article!

I see from the early part of this thread that people are questioning the timing of this insane-looking transit.

I took a great astro class a few years back with some other local enthusiasts, and we discussed the upcoming doom-n-gloom at great length. And our teacher pinpointed a date that makes an awful lot of sense. 

It's June 26, 2010. Check it out.  The Sat/Pluto/Ur square will be almost exact: Sat will be retrograding (or returning, sorry) around 1 Lib (28 Vir), Pluto will be at 4 Cap and Ur will be just at 0.33 Aries, with Jupiter conjunct.

But the kicker here is the full moon eclipse on that date, which brings Mercury to 2 Cancer. Presto!

http://cafeastrology.com/daily/lunareclipsejun2010.gif

What do you all think?

Quite frankly, the month before, Venus also opposes 4 Cap If I'm remembering correctly), but Venus rarely acts as the timer for events.

And I did check the US national chart (I believe in the Sco Asc), and our Venus is, if I remember correctly, heavily involved. I think it's at 2 Can. Or 2 of Lib. Whatever. It's in the square. Not that the "disaster" will just be US-based, but who the hell knows? It's a good bet that it could start here, and trickle down.

We all know the prophecies. I"m interested in unpacking them a bit, if you are (is this a global collapse? of what nature? Ur in Aries could be an Internet-lead revolution), and also investigating the role Neptune will play, she will also be at 1 of Pisces soon, excellently placed for a revolution, and trining and sextiling the square.

What d'ya'll think? I'm actually salting some extra food away already, and contemplating the purchase of an electronic motorbike, though then wonder if I'm not a bit paranoid... A few months back, I saw a film called 'Collapse" here in LA, a (somewhat paranoid) journalist who portends the collapse of our oil-based system, says there's no oil left. There was something to what he said, actually. Though when I thought about it, I realized that there was lots of oil in Russia... And Neptune in Pisces portends more oil, I think, not less.

Have you all seen the push by the Huffington Post to put our money in credit unions, and screw the banks? Check it out!

A62

I am not exactly focused on June.
It is all three summer months, June, July and August.  That last week of July and first week of August is very tense along with the rest of the month. 

Here's what I'm telling friends...."If you want to buy a house or a business...wait until fall of 2010. Wait until this effin' summer is over."
But of course the tension is all year.  We have one more round of Uranus/Saturn Oppose in Pisces/Virgo in Arpil (probably another round of the health care stuff)...which will give us more tension and then everything starts to line up.
No one can overstate these aspects.   

I just posted Richard Nolle's article on my blog. 
Here's the link to it.
http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/2010-all.html

fwiw: I am Sag, pretty optimistic, pretty 'glass is half full" person.  I have a small son and when you have a kid, you kind of have to have hope about the future.  That is my nature.....having said all that... These aspects are shit.  If any of us get through them without a black eye I will be shocked.    Let's put it this way one day I said to my husband, "I wouldn't be surprised if there was a landslide in La Palma that sent the whole eastern seaboard looking for shelter."  That kind of thing....