Node-o-rama

Sophiea · 01 Sep 2005 21:44

Hi everyone,
I hope I have successfully registered and logged on.
I have been reading posts here for sometime and this is an incredible site. A home away from home if you will! I have been studying (practicing) astrology for years, and as a librarian, I am thrilled to see the "academic" integrity and intelligence of the various posts here. (school-mistress smile)
I'm writing to share one of the most challenging times of my life. T Pluto is currently squaring my saturn in the eighth, T uranus is opposing my mars, T saturn has just finished conjuncting my jupiter, squaring my moon and venus, and is now squaring my sun. And the most obvious manifestation of all of this is that I have pretty much cut ties with all of my family. I am shocked to write this, let alone think it, it was the last thing I expected. We have never been tight; folks divorced when i was six, mum an alcoholic, dad a workaholic, brother an addict, I left home early to escape, and did a pretty good job, until I realised after 16 years I wanted to come "home". Reclaim my home as it were.
What is realy interesting is that I have not so much cut them off, as much as I have finally stood-up for myself, set a boundary, and well, even fought back against unacceptable behaviour, and that has begun a backlash of venom, how dare i change the dance!
For me these transit are bringing to the fore the need for me to clear those people in my life who are emtionally irresponsible.
And the theme is manifesting itself in all areas. I seem to simply want to cease contact with anyone who isn't honestly contributing to my life...probably sounds silly, but I never relaised how much "work" I have doing in several unfulfilling relationships, and I've had it! (Uranus opposition mars?), and the transformation of my sturctures seems to suggest my disinheritence...(pluto square saturn? in the 8th) ...fascinating, painful, lots of self-doubt, tears in the night, and yet a tingling, shimmering alusive sense that i am getting FREE!

Thanks all for listening.
Sophie

Keishin · 02 Sep 2005 01:24

First off, welcome out of lurk mode Sophie!

Ah, Pluto versus Saturn. I have such *fond* memories of that last time I had it. (insert sarcasm). I just felt so throughly screwed by the universe it wasn't even funny.

It hit me 1992-94, and that was when my parents moved houses twice in one year, changed schools accordingly, lost my best friend to illness and was getting the crap kicked out of me at school on a regular basis. (I actually used to hide out in the library, so I've a soft spot for librarians.)

But it's great to hear that your transit is bringing out the positive side of Pluto for you. That's one of those planets that I never know how it's going to hit. Should I enjoy the transformation or go build a fallout shelter? lol

Welcome again!

Paula · 02 Sep 2005 02:51

Pluto? maybe transform in the fallout shelter, nu?

yes, welcome Soph. Not sure I want to think about Saturn and Pluto right now.......BUT here's one for you: my son's natal Pluto is exactly conjunct New Orleans 1805 Saturn. (the youngest who probably lost everything in Katrina's hit to New Orleans).

I can see transformation taking place already, but it's a painful process for him, too, I'm sure.

haku · 02 Sep 2005 12:03

hi sophie

i traced back when this square hit my chart and it was in autumn 1995. i have no special memories of that time. interesting, i wasn't that much into astrology back then as i am now and was not aware of that square. knowing myself, had I anticipated it I would have been worrying like crazy, especially since my saturn is at the cusp of my 6th house.

i currently have pluto square mars, in my 6th, which, of course, i have been anticipating with fear, but thus far it's not been bad at all. it's been evry much about getting into my power and cleaning up my life, like you are doing, sorting out who is contributing to my life in a positive way and getting rid of negative influences.

Chris Mitchell · 02 Sep 2005 14:17

Hi, Sophie - and welcome to Node-o-Rama!

It hit me in 1979, and was really good. I started university at the start of the transit - and it was a real break for me. I felt rather trapped at home, and it was like starting a new life where I could really be who I was.

The sense of freedom was exhiliarating - but I also had Uranus sextile Saturn and Uranus square Uranus going on at the same time!

Sophiea · 02 Sep 2005 15:04

It's great to hear this can be a positive or even uneventful transit...I too get so fatalistic sometimes, it's unhealthy. But this one transit, or several as they are happening, is taking it's toll on me. I'm waking up shaking, and having major anxiety, inner child stuff no doubt, abandonment issues surfacuing , even if I am the one who is stepping away from family. Love has always been a power struggle in family, the more abuse you accept, the more devoted you are, tres codependant. Lots of scorpio energy there, karma for me no doubt. I don't want to be a fear mongor, but when i had pluto squaring my mars (natal pluto on the cusp of my second house, and ruling my fourth) I lost everything I owned in a fire, very dramatic, huge "clearing out" yup...but it was ok really, so big I just simply let go, I had no choice but to be philosphical or I would have lost it...I have a taurus moon, and all that possessive scorpio energy (sun, venus , mercury, neptune) meant I could have gone nuts, but I really took that as an incredible opportunity to transcend the loss, and it was one of the most cathartic thing in my life, ...now for the people. Haha, any suggestions for bach flower remedies or other such things to help for the time?

Molly · 02 Sep 2005 15:20

Hi Sophie-- I don't have much to share with you right now about Pluto square Saturn. Some great stories in this thread though. I just wanted to say welcome to the forum, and thanks for being here.

Best,
Molly

Sophiea · 02 Sep 2005 15:43

Hi Molly,
Thanks for the welcome, I'm glad uni is started a new term, it keeps me occupied with registration, so I don't have as much time to angst, as I otherwise would !! Juputer has just entered my third, and i'm looking forward to a year of implementing a new library management system, and working on great collaborative teams with other institutions. I ADORE Jupiter, with it conjuncting my sun, venus etc, later this fall, I'm hoping for a bit of a reprieve from this stress. What are people's experiences with pluto transits, this square to my saturn technically has its last hit in December, but will retrograde to a 30 minute orb (never actually making an exact contact) to my saturn next year... Do you think I can relax, at least ever so slightly after december, or am In for another year of this??
When i lost everything in that fire :pluto:square:mars:, it occured at exactly the last hit, nothing after that really compared to that scale of destruction/transformation, even though pluto retrograded very close to my mars again, later that year...let's hope!!
Sophie

Molly · 02 Sep 2005 16:32

Well I had that happen when Uranus squared my Saturn, and the "almost-hit" (aka refranation) at the end was nowhere near as painful as the direct hit. I was forced to leave a rental house I had planned to be in for a while, which sucked, but I wound up buying a house, which has worked out great. I might not have done so had I not been uprooted like that.

I was settling into the new routine when the refranation happened, and I don't recall anything particularly upsetting that I could tie to it. Except maybe that I was getting bodywork and figuring out how to have fewer headaches. A few months before I had been having severe headaches way too often. I blame that on Uranus square my 6th house ruler Neptune.

Paula · 02 Sep 2005 18:34

Molly, I have Uranus square Neptune in natal.........and have had alot of headaches come and go after various mars/uranus square accidents. I hadn't really thought about the headaches coming from uranus square neptune, but that is an interesting thought. Moon is ruler of my 6th, and it is conjunct Neptune as well so probably gives it strength. I should check transits for the times they were the worst!

Molly · 02 Sep 2005 18:44

Well I have Aries Sun in the 6th, predisposed toward headaches, and Pisces on the 6th house cusp-- Uranus square Nep activated my sensitivities, and Neptune ruling the 6th-- they were physical in nature. You seem to have a similar Martian story going on with Neptune tied to the earthy houses. Just don't want someone thinking all Uranus square Nep transits go this way.

M

nathan119 · 05 Sep 2005 05:45

hello sophiea

i like that comment about "how dare i change the dance"

i have the saturn pluto square natally and i can completely relate to that kind of outlook.

sometimes i feel as though its my duty "change the dance" when it comes to some things in my life.....

ive read that people with this aspect natally can seem somewhat egomaniacal.....but i think it gives me a lot of steadfastedness ( or rigidity some might say) when it comes to my beliefs...( my saturns in the 9th house)....

i allways expect a certain "backlash of venom" in almost any new endeavor i start.... i think this aspect can help to make u aware of the way people manipulate situations.. sort of it takes one 2 know one kind of thing....

on the negative side it may make u paranoid .. on the positive side ( if u can let go of any negative emotion associated with the feeling of getting screwed over) it can give u the awareness and the ability to rise above other peoples selfish, manipulative B.S. and perservere in whatever direction your going.

o.k. i think i just typed the basic theme of my whole horoscope ..... oh well... i dont post much anyway:)

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