Woman on the verge of a Neptune transit

[molly]

Neptune's at about 19 1/2 degrees Aquarius right now. I have Venus at 20 3/4 Taurus.

Tonight I have been having trouble sleeping, and have been feeling lost and dissatisfied and bored, pining for what is lost or seems unattainable. I have been ever more conscious lately of the filter between what's in my psyche and what I express to the world. I see other people transcending that filter and I want to do it too.

There's nothing else bummy going on with my chart right now, so I think it might be this Neptune transit getting close, even though Neptune changes direction in May and won't actually reach the square to my Venus until early next year.

I can't imagine this transit will be sunshine and roses.. I'm starting to do things to embrace the inevitable-- staying in tune with my half assed patchwork quilt of a spiritual practice and taking guitar lessons.

If you have had this transit, how was it? How did you cope with it? What happened in your life?

[Keishin]

Well the only thing I've been noticing is I've been having incredibly hot feet (Pisces rules feet), enough so that I've not been able to sleep well for several weeks. But I'm one of those people who's always hot, even when icicles are forming on the window, so I never thought much of it. Neptune has been separating from a square to my Sun so perhaps that has something to do with my hot feet.

[molly]

Neptune squared your Sun and all you got was hot feet?! Wow.

[Paula]

Molly, my Venus is in Scorpio at 26. So, I'll find out after you! But, Neptune has been trining my Mars for awhile now and squaring my Merc. I am falling for Neptune, some, because some of the effects have been dreamy, good. Other things? I dunno. Too many transits going on to dissect which is which. (you are) Lucky to have just one to pinpoint. Right now I have Pluto sextile Moon with one degree separating though Pluto is now retro. I've been having problems sleeping for awhile and Moon is on my 9th. It may ease as Pluto moves away, but when it returns I'll likely have problems again. I think I've heard Pluto affects sleeplessness. So, I guess I like Neptune better, LOL. When Neptune went S.D. last fall, we closed on some real estate that was an absolute dream for our life. We've had severe financial struggles for years and years and finally we got a nice windfall/break that gave us some breathing room, and we're still breathing from it a bit.

I wonder if Neptune transiting Venus wouldn't help us dissolve some of the crystallized problems in our Venusian nature? For me, it might help me finally tackle that horrendous sweet tooth I have that causes me grief in my health. Jupiter has been coming up to it, and the struggle intensified alot for a bit. I was out of control! Now it's retro giving me a break too. It will be fun to watch - I hadn't even thought of Neptune squaring my planets, so busy was I looking at its trine to my Mars.

thanks for sharing.

I had a hard time breaking through on this site about things personal because I am private generally. Then I decided a little bit at a time to open up a bit more, then a bit more. It's kinda freeing. And, I think it maybe helps other people get a handle on something now and then. But, I always have that danger of foot in mouth, or typed words in mouth or whatever. I'm too much of a worrier. maybe Neptune trine my Merc will help me dissolve that some!

fine tuning, dissolving the negatives.........forget the deceiving, but probably we all tend to deceive ourselves in neptune transits, ya think? *grin*

[Paula]

OH NO. It just dawned on me Neptune will oppose my Pluto when it squares my Venus. oh drat. Well, lots of opportunity to really fix myself good with that.

[kundalisa]

Hey Molly --

I'm also under a Neptune/Venus transit. I share many of your current feelings of dissatisfaction. My Venus is at 19 degrees 25 Leo in the 5th. For the past couple of weeks, I've experienced major confusion in the direction my creative work should take from this point forward. I've had to undertake a major career shift. Neptune is also squaring my Scorpio Saturn at the same time, which rules my MC.

[Keishin]

Molly Wrote:Neptune squared your Sun and all you got was hot feet?! Wow.

I'm surprised too. I was expecting all this cloudy sort of dreaminess to invade my life, but so far nothing. But I have a really well apsected Neptune natally, so Neptune transits don't seem to bother me too much. :shrugs:

Here's a thought - with the Sun representing male influences for me, do you think the transiting square could be affecting the guys in my life? The more I think about it, the more it fits - the boyfriend is just drifting along in a fog right now as far as his life goes, plus it's in his 1st house.

[molly]

Well are you sure Keishin? I looked back at old posts where you described a feeling of having lost your creativity, and some plumbing problems.

[Paula]

it dawned on me this morning in the shower that Neptune will also be trining my natal Neptune when I experience the square to Pluto. I'm looking forward to a quieter transit period one day in the future......

[Keishin]

Molly Wrote:Well are you sure Keishin? I looked back at old posts where you described a feeling of having lost your creativity, and some plumbing problems.

But I'd not thought to explain away to Neptune . . . but it should be there, no? Guess I'm getting so cloudy I've forgotten what I've written!

[darksun]

If i were to go through a personal Neptune transit again, i would try to ensure that I was surrounded by supportive and positive influences, before the fog descended. Just like someone in a depression, I didn't realize i was in one. I felt very strongly at the time that all people were equal, no person was greater than the other, we were all the same. Even if someone was more intelligent, charming, charasmatic, full of all the worldly trappings of success, if reaching full self-actualization, that enlightened point, they would come to the same point as the dimmer, simpler, homelier man(think Forest Gump . Essentially, we're all capable of reaching the highest point of the human potential, regardless of our strengths and weaknesses. The greatest a human can be is within all our grasps. This resonated with me during the time that Neptune transited my Aquarius Venus.

It was a beautiful idea, but from this vantage point it was more difficult to draw distinctions and thus put up the necessary barriers to protect myself from more negative influences. I let people treat me inconsiderately, believing in their greater good. Still, all in all this didn't effect me so badly until i did fall into a depression, which I do believe was so severe as i was under the influence of Neptune, but it was not directly caused by it. My depression was triggered by the loss of my great love(whom I'm still with, but without trust, it can never be the same), which i truly grieved, and this happened soon after the birth of my daughter so biologically i was also going through a delicate time. This is when i became lost, needed constant sleep, and smoked alot of pot. It was a bleak time.

So I would say that I experienced both the positive and negative side of Neptune. It's going to square my Scorpio moon in time, and I plan on organizing my life beforehand. I've been thinking that if i set a sort of daily schedule for myself, commit to spending much time doing outdoor activities with the kids, and maybe taking a Tai Chi class, it'll help me to stay focused. It seems to make sense that I'll stay more rooted in my body by keeping it healthy. Help feign off that swimming through reality sensation, and keep myself too busy to muse in negative thinking. I hope my responsibilities like school and raising my kids will be my lifesaver=).

[kitkatmeowy]

darksun Wrote:If i were to go through a personal Neptune transit again, i would try to ensure that I was surrounded by supportive and positive influences,
...This is when i became lost, needed constant sleep, and smoked alot of pot. It was a bleak time.

So I would say that I experienced both the positive and negative side of Neptune.

in my body by keeping it healthy. Help feign off that swimming through reality sensation, and keep myself too busy to muse in negative thinking.

Hi Darksun... I can relate to your experience. Neptune is sextiling my N. Venus and I was lost.. so lost. The last 3 weeks has been really dreamy and also incredibly dark and self-destructive. I met someone who I was so taken by. He is a Sag sun with a Pluto/Moon/Venus conjunction. I am Sag also. We both have Neptune conjunct our suns AND we closely aspected each other's sun/neptune. He took me to a deep dark and beautiful place and I couldn't see it at first. I was really scared and my fears pulled me out of it despite how much I wanted to be with him.

We spent 24/7 with each other and did lots of recreational drugs together. I didn't realize how bad it was until today. I finally listened to my intuition that the situation was bad for me, even though, our hearts were in the right places and is still is.

Here's the positive, I was able to have compassion and walk away. I saw a mirror image of myself in him...my potential to be an extreme escapist via drugs.

[elsaelsa]

Molly, I just wrapped up Neptune opp my Venus in Leo and it was a big one. Now granted, I have Neptune sq Venus natally, so no doubt the transit was exacerbated, but from the tone of your post I imagine (Neptune pun ) there is much more already constellating in your life - you're just not caught on yet.

Anyway, my experience is very fresh and I don't think I could be very concise in summing it up, although I would echo kitkatmeowy to say, it seemed like everyone I loved (Venus) was addicted to something (legal or prescribed) and I was addicted to the addicts!!

The good news is, the transit has passed now and everyone washed up on the beach in pretty good shape. Of course there were many other things that occurred as well. Music played heavy, as did fantasy and dreamy love that wound up real, not Memorex, thank God.

ps - I like this title. I saw that movie.

[molly]

Thanks everybody for your posts!

Darksun- It's funny you should mention Tai Chi. I took a break from my regular aerobic exercise and yoga videos today and did Kundalini Yoga with Gurmukh. It's very energetic and vibey, you do almost the whole thing with your eyes closed and focused on the "3rd eye" space between your eyebrows. It really helped me mellow out. And I got a good workout too.

I can relate to the grief over a lost love. I lost one a long time ago, and most of the time I'm ok, but recently I had a wave of grief about it that really sent me into a depressed state. I have come to think about this hang-up on this lost love who is so far gone, as a thought pattern that I'm addicted to. I can't help thinking that any normally functioning person would be so over it by now. Maybe I'm addicted to this form of misery. I desperately want to be free of it.

And the Hormones! Darksun, I can only imagine what it was like going through this after just having given birth. In creeps Neptune and my cycle has been really off. I had premenstrual symptoms just a few days after my period ended. And a few days ago I was an angry emotional wreck. I'm grateful I know about herbs, they have helped a lot.

Elsa, I agree with you there's something big constellating (love that word). I don't expect to come out on the other side of Neptune square Venus without shifting in some fundamental way. Music has been plucking my heart strings more strongly lately too. I look around me and the people I know aren't moved by it the way I am. I have no one to share it with and that feels sad and lonely.

[Paula]

Molly, very open post. Good for you!

I've been fighting depression all day. We just got back to Tennessee. It's beautiful here. The corn was up! The flowers are blooming some, but with all the things going on in my life I have been fighting depression.

I've been taking pain pills (prescribed) off and on for various things and today spent time sewing then went out to the garden and pasture to work until sunset. It felt good to do physical labor. It helped pull me out of my depression, a bit, but I wonder where Neptune ends and Saturn begins these days.

I had a wave of grief over my father's death (he died in 1994) while driving up to Tennessee. A song came on the radio: "Stranger on the Shore" an old classic thing that for some reason reminded me of him. When he was alive, I'd have never said it reminded me of him, but it did yesterday.

I am sorry about the sad and lonely feelings. Sometimes I feel that way, even though I've been married for 29 years!

I've been reading alot of predictive books and it has me feeling down over the following:

1) not feeling like I'll ever really get a handle on figuring things out because there's always something else popping up that makes all the difference and somehow I see things far differently than the authors of all these books. It's like reading another language and not seeing things very clearly even though I understand what they are saying. It's as if I can't see the connection the way they do. I realize I have alot of studying ahead to get there and wonder if it is something I want to invest that kind of time into.

2) It seems like my upcoming months have alot of health issues and I'm just tired of dealing with them. I want to change my future but keep thinking it's perhaps too late to change as much as I need to.

I have put way too much emphasis on transits and not nearly enough on other things. I did a harmonic chart today, wondering why I am feeling as I am and noted my age harmonic Sun just changed into Virgo. zero degrees. For some reason those zero degree changes seem to throw me off a bit for a day or two.

Neptune seems to dissolve the boundaries of everything: my self esteem, my plans, my expectations, my beliefs. I sometimes just want to sleep and dream away this transit of Neptune making a grand trine (just beginning with one component I think) to my air trine in my natal.

I think I ought to delete this because it seems too nebulous........*grin*

[penny]

Another woman here on the verge of a Neptune transit. Close, yet far enough away from being exact. tr. Neptune is about to trine my natal Moon, but goes retrograde right before it happens.

I've noticed I've been feeling a strong pull to the sea. I had to decorate my work area recently with images of water and rivers everywhere, as city living doesn't offer much of an ocean view. I can't think of anything more desired right now than a home by the sea.

Also, my dreams and intuitive impressions have been much more vivd and accessible. For the most part though, all I want to do is sleep for days on end, but sometimes I notice I have trouble falling asleep at night. Also I'm tempted to take Ambien, but will stop myself because I know I'm highly addictive to just about everything.

Interestingly, memories of a past love keeps coming back to me, not so much in a nostalgiac sense but in a buried deep subconcious way as in remembering certain nuances of the relationship that comes to me at random times during the day. Not that it makes any more sense now as it did back then...but I'm left wondering why am I sensing or feeling or remembering such things from the past!

Overall, emotions and impressions are somewhat blurry to me. Can't really separate one from the other, even if they do come to me ever so gently. I've been so wrapped up in this Saturn return thing, I forgot that I was almost entering a Neptunian world.

By the time one ends, the other will be ready to begin. I can say I am almost looking forward to some dreaminess again back in my life. I kinda miss the magic and creativity that Neptune can inspire.

[elsaelsa]

Molly, this is for you:
http://www.elsaelsa.com/archives/2006/04...ard-cohen/

And if it makes sense to you, I have another story written (but way too long for the forum or the blog) that I sort of worked on throughout my entire transit. Er... so it's very real. And I will send it privately if you like.

[molly]

Thank you Elsa, that was so kind of you.

I would love to read your story.

This morning I received word that my grandmother suffered a stroke Sunday evening. She was already in fragile condition, and they have called in hospice.

[kitkatmeowy]

So sorry about your Grandmother Molly..... my prayers go out to your grandma....

Kathy

[Lunar_Scorpion]

I've just realised - Neptune (in my 11th/12th house) is in opposition to my natal Venus at 25 degrees of Leo in 5th/6th house, both squaring my natal Saturn at 24 degrees of Scorpio in 8th/7th. How fun...

Well... It's no wonder I can't stop thinking about a lost lover - now that I think about it, these feelings are all rather Neptunian!

[elsaelsa]

(((Molly)))

[darksun]

I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother Molly, I hope things go well.

[chrissymgreen]

Molly, I'm so sorry to hear about your g-mother. I hope all is OK.

I am a woman in the throes of a Neptune transit. My natal Venus is at 18 Aquarius 39, and when Neptune hit 13 Aquarius 10 (which is the cusp of my 5th house) in 2003 I met a man who became the best friend and lover I'd ever had. It fell into that typical I've-just-met-the-love-of-my-life Neptune/Venus experience some describe.

When Neptune hit 16 Aquarius 17 (it was roughly 2° from my natal Venus at this point) in 2005, he informed me he could no longer continue our relationship. He has Asperger's Syndrome coupled with a variety of other issues (OCD, ADD, depression, agoraphobia) and he withdrew from me and the world.

Neptune is at 19 Aquarius 38 now; it made its first of 3 passes over my natal Venus in the 5th in mid March of 2006 right around my birthday. Its final pass will be in January of 2007.

I should mention here Venus in 5th squares Saturn in the 8th near exact in my chart; Saturn is at 18 Taurus 58. So while transiting Neptune is conjuncting my natal Venus, it is also squaring my natal Saturn.

It has been over a year since things ended with this person and I still miss him deeply. I've never had that kind of friendship (my Uranus/AC conjunction + Venus in Aqua *loved* this) coupled with unconditional love. I've been feeling so lost and confused...now that Neptune has made its 1st pass the fog is a little clearer I suppose. I still feel extraordinarily sensitive however. In fact, it's come to the point where my Uranian detachment is kicking in on the outside but it hasn't fully reached my insides yet. When I think of him, I get a stiff feeling all over and a lump forms in my throat. It almost feels like I lost a family member.

Alan Leo says Neptune allows/permits the soul to leave the body. When I think about Neptune/Venus, I see how the capacity for sensitivity in relationship is emphasized. Neptune transits are a call to understand subtle energies...and these forces are brought to our attention through an increased sensitivity. I think situations that give rise to a deep sadness often occur, but this is a call for compassion and also, to let go. It is almost as if Neptune is asking us to access our most spiritual selves...the part of us without a body/corporal form. Just think of that Leo quote.


Just wanted to pitch in with my thoughts!



Sincerely,
Chrissy

[tracy]

When Neptune conjuncted my Venus (11th house)---friends started to dissappoint in a huge way but at the same time, this is when my husband entered my life. Many astrologers will say that a neptune venus transit is NOT the time time to meet someone but in my case I had been without for so long and so comfortable being alone that I needed a neptune transit to dissolve my 'go it alone' mentality. My husband and I have been together ever since 10 years in June.

Molly, Gurmukh is here in LA at GoldenBridge... maybe you need to give yourself a little retreat. Come out here for a weekend, stay at some place reasonable (like Farmer's Daughter on Fairfax)...Rent a cheap car and give yourself a neptune vacation. Go see where movies are made. Go to The Bohdi Tree and get lost in their metaphysical books. Go see Gurmukh's yoga class in person. And I will treat you to Beverly Hot Springs a natural hot pool in the middle of the city. one hundred years ago a farmer drilled in his field hoping to find oil. Instead he hit hot water...a natural thermal underground spring. It has been running ever since and is now a spa. Celebrities favorite place to not be seen. but are of course...again, neptuney.

think about it...

[nathan119]

Hey Molly....

I have venus in Taurus at 13 degrees in the seventh house and when neptune was squaring my venus i was playing in a band....

But we never seemed to ever get any gigs.....and any time i tried to book a gig there was always something that came up with the bass player...( we did play occasionally but not as much as we should or could have)

well. i didnt find out till much later that me and the drummer were pretty much this guy's practice band..

We would practice all the songs he needed to know so he could go out at a moments notice and sit in with whoever needed a bass player...

( he was older and much better connected with the local music scene than i was)

Definitley a disillusioning experience...

Interestingly.. he has a stellium of venus, mars and uranus in Leo that was being opposed by Neptune at the same time my venus was being squared