How I'm working on my North Node...the list

[Annette]

Kodey,

I'm with you on the blind spot impression. I think my north node is the place where I keep coming back and saying, "How did this happen again?" It's the aspects of myself that will evolve only when I figure out how to release from the South Node energy, but because it's completely unknown territory, it seems impossible to address directly.

I got a tip on a book by Martin Schulman (I haven't read the whole thread thoroughly, so if this is a repeat, please forgive me). The Moon's Nodes and Reincarnation was referred to me by an astrologer who says it doesn't contain any "of that wussy love yourself stuff" and is rather brutal. Not sure what it means, but anything that is surprising sounds good to me. Have a good day.

[tracy]

kodey,
I have a broken computer right now so I am only able to get online with my husband's computer so I really can't stay long.... (new computer next week)...

but one thought that comes to mind, is that part of the north node in sag in the 3rd house could easily be... teaching siblings. That facillitates both energies. And if by teaching that means, leaving, breaking away and setting new examples...then..I think a case could be made you are doing both sign and house of your north node.
south node in 9th in the sign gemini at first blush feels very journalism... I wonder if you might have a novel in you..maybe about family? It is subtle difference but that seems 3rd/sag.
in some ways, journalism is "safer" and novel about family would stretch you more.

I can't remember the authors' name...but years ago there was a movie with robert deniro and leo decaprio that was called and I can't remember exactly... was it "A boys life"? It was a story about an abusive step father and how he impacted this family of mom and two sons. Anyway, I was stunned later to learn that the man who wrote the book which became that movie....based it on his childhood..that part didn't stun me but what did was that his brother also became a writer and he too wrote a book about this man from his perspective and it became a movie, too. It was almost like this awful man came into these boys life not to give them a shitty childhood but on the bigger picture to generate their careers which would fuel them much longer than his time with them.

Regarding Saturn in 3rd house. Excellent writing position. Also, has neptune been squaring your saturn? that might also explain the further disillusion with family. That's one take. the other is of course, release and inspiration..but since it would be a square it is difficult transition to the release and inspiration. Ah, but birth usually is.

[kodey]

Scorpiosalsea, Annette, and Tracy:

Thank you for such perceptive responses to my posting.

Scorpiosalsera -- interesting to think about the south node as a possible break or "vacation" from 3rd house issues -- all I've been doing for the past year is sitting in my apartment and editing and writing -- I long to travel soon (probably to Europe) and your comments support that.

Annette -- the blind spot and the nodes seems to suggest that there's a need to be conscious of the nodes and reflect on choices in each area -- and as the pendulum swings back and forth, assess whether you're growing or not -- maybe why this thread is titled "how I'm working on my north node" (with the emphasis on the "work"!).

Tracy -- I think you're right about teaching siblings, although I don't fully understand what the lessons are yet. I've worked a lot as a teacher (college, writing workshops for adults), and while I enjoy teaching, I never liked being a student and was always bored or distracted (Sagittarius/Gemini issues again). I do feel that I was more of a governess than a caretaker for my siblings (and I've often felt this was a karmic situation, that I was governess to them in a past life).

I'm also trying to remember some things Noel Tyl said in a book he wrote -- about Saturn conjunct the North Node and issues about how the mother can overpower one's life (and that the big lessons come from release from the mother's influence on one's destiny). So he reads Saturn as a maternal influence (if I recall correctly). I'll try to find the material and start a new thread if it seems interesting. But again, it makes me think about how the nodes are so tied up in conflicts about what to release and what to take in (or develop) in one's life. I also feel that my mother sets the tone for my siblings' antagonism toward me.

As I was reading your posts, it suddenly occurred to me how much my writing is based on 3rd house/9th house issues: I usually write about "everyday" characters (i.e., immersed in daily life, secretaries or office workers with dull jobs or routines), whose lives change profoundly when they take a journey (or they dream of taking a journey, or have conflicts about taking a journey).

Has anyone else noticed nodal influences in their art or writing?

[Annette]

Kodey,

I have certainly noticed nodal influences in my writing. As I said in my initial note, I am very new to the existence (let alone the meaning) of nodes.

When I now look at my work, particularly recent writing, I find that material I thought was about something else seems equally to be about wrestling free from Capricorn tendencies to a Cancerian kind of land. It's pretty interesting. Maybe it's a rehearsal for life.

Have you noticed influences on your work?

Annette

[wEvil]

I have noticed my cancer-3rd/cappy-9th nodal axis comes out often in my art

It's either extremely dark and emotionally upset or it has a whole.. tech/efficiency worship/detachment thing going on.

My node axis is mirrored by the rest of my chart however as it's quite the integral part.

[tracy]

Quote:Has anyone else noticed nodal influences in their art or writing?

hmmmmm. I'm not entirely sure. somedays I might say yes.... but really I think my writing is unbeliveably influenced by my mercury in capricorn in the 10th.

dark humor.

lately I'm mulling over a piece that is just dark with no humor. well..wait that is very north node in scorpio.... you might be right.

onward

[Arana]

Hi....this thread is really long. I wasn't sure if I should start a new one, since my question is about the north-node?

My north-node is in sagittarius, and throughout my life it seems Sags have played key roles in influencing me and helping me to learn in areas I normally wouldn't venture into.
I have an ex-boyfriend whose mars is exactly conjunct my north-node. His sun is also in Sagittarius, but too many degrees off to be conjunct. Can anyone give me any idea as to the effect of a mars-north-node conjunction in synastry? Could it mean that perhaps I should pay attention to the way his action principle works and strive to be more like this person in that sense?
:?:
When I first saw this conjunction between our charts, it scared me. I immediately conjured up thoughts about mars and its warrior like tendencies.......connecting with my north-node.(the direction I should be striving for in life?)

[kikay]

Quote:Originally posted by Arana

My north-node is in sagittarius, and throughout my life it seems Sags have played key roles in influencing me and helping me to learn in areas I normally wouldn't venture into.
I have an ex-boyfriend whose mars is exactly conjunct my north-node. His sun is also in Sagittarius, but too many degrees off to be conjunct. Can anyone give me any idea as to the effect of a mars-north-node conjunction in synastry? Could it mean that perhaps I should pay attention to the way his action principle works and strive to be more like this person in that sense?
:?:
When I first saw this conjunction between our charts, it scared me. I immediately conjured up thoughts about mars and its warrior like tendencies.......connecting with my north-node.(the direction I should be striving for in life?)

hi arana!

mars conj n.node in synastry...hmm...i remember reading SOMEWHERE (sorry, forgot where :?: ) that the aspect could contribute to the n.node being pushed and/or encouraged (i guess depending on the rest of your respective charts and personalities) by mars to "fight for" or "realize" the n.node's ambitions/desires. could also be that the relationship is highly dynamic and passionate. if the n.node has some issues about embracing the more aggressive/primitive aspect of his nature, mars could encourage him to embrace these energies...something-something...as for the focus, the house where the n.node is in could give you a hint. hope that helps!

[Arana]

Thanks for the input. I have wondered for a while what that conjunction might "feel" like. He does complain often about putting my thoughts into "action" and making things happen. He has mars conjunct neptune in sagittarius in the 8th house. So although I think he is right in saying I should "move more" and "make things happen", I certainly don't want to follow his example.....hhehehe...and that's where the confusion came in. But it's so funny that you guys would say that....because it's so true now that I really ponder it. He would get frustrated because I talked about so much (s.node in gemini) but never took it out into the world....(n.node in sag.)
Thanks!

[kikay]

Quote:Originally posted by Arana
Thanks for the input. I have wondered for a while what that conjunction might "feel" like. He does complain often about putting my thoughts into "action" and making things happen. He has mars conjunct neptune in sagittarius in the 8th house. So although I think he is right in saying I should "move more" and "make things happen", I certainly don't want to follow his example.....hhehehe...and that's where the confusion came in. But it's so funny that you guys would say that....because it's so true now that I really ponder it. He would get frustrated because I talked about so much (s.node in gemini) but never took it out into the world....(n.node in sag.)
Thanks!

LOL that definitely sounds like mars talkin' i wonder though what and how you meant by "...but never took it out into the world (n.node in sag)" as i know most sags are as verbose as geminis. the only difference, i guess, is in the chosen topic of conversation.

based on my personal experience, any conjunction (synastrically) between a planet and the n.node would manifest with the planet person being more expressive (at first) but once the relationship kicks off and has grown "deeper" it's the n.node person who gets "transformed" more. am not sure for the others but that was my experience with an ex whose moon conj my n.node in lib...did you or anyone else find this to be true?

oh, and arana, i was just wondering in which house your sag n.node is in? thanks!

[tracy]

currently transiting node is on my node.

taurus. first house.

my money has never felt more less.
how about that for a sentance?

[free bird]

Hi! Well, I have NN on 2nd house cusp, tracy! That's kind of like being in Taurus. T Jupiter has just recently conjuncted it (15 Virgo) and I've spent more money in the last month than I ever have in my life I think. I didn't even know I had that much money to spend...I think it was all on really worthwhile things though. I drained my bank account (I really didn't plan to do it, somehow it happened). But as a result of the money spent, my health and my looks and my general well-being (2nd house) are probably a whole lot better than they were 2 months ago. I spent too much, but I think it gave me more resources to draw from so that I can make more money while Jupiter is going trough 2nd. That's GOT to be true...or else I'm broke for the whole year, and I can't accept that!
So maybe NN Taurus or 2nd can spend a lot as well as gain a lot. Maybe it sets off SN in Scorpio or 8th too.

[tracy]

whoops. lost my posting. sigh.

anyway, I dragged up this thread because I wanted to add an observation during Katrina that I felt was salient.

I could not help but notice during all the awful footage of Katrina and all those people who were trapped and waiting for help..that during that time, north node was in Aries. And never have I felt such a need so apparent for a "man with a plan". We were desperate for Aries energy. We were desperate for a leader to take charge and fix it. Lead the people to safety, help... and we were so lacking it. In fact I personally still feel we are in need (jmo). But it just seemed there was so much libra energy... and this is not critical of the victims at all, but just so much Libra waiting for a partner someone to lead. So south node.

[Paula]

Very interesting observation. I could literally write a book on the experience of having evacuees in our home for five weeks. I have alot going on in my mind about it, and what you say is very, very true. Gives me some insight, too, as I have a Libra cluster of three planets and my husband has three Libra planets as well with his South Node in Libra.

We are still in need of that leadership. I agree.

When our son came home mid September, he was so hungry for hugs and love and attention and some form of leadership from somewhere outside himself. I've never seen him like that. He still is calling home alot and asking us all kinds of questions. He used to go for weeks without calling us. Now we hear from him daily, sometimes several times a day. It's a very strange experience to journey through. Lately I've been feeling some major energy shifts within myself. It's like gears shifting and moving and changing and forward momentum stopping and starting.

Our son left after five weeks of staying at home and gathering himself together here where he is loved. Sometimes I still feel like just crying over the whole event. It overtakes me and the pictures of the helplessness, the far reaching effects of the sorrows and losses.....it is nearly too much. And, I was one of the lucky ones. Our sons lived through the event, in spite of the fact that they both lived in one of the worst areas hit.

The one son seemed to begin to heal more after he went back and got closure. He spent only a short time in his studio. There was a water moccasin in his back room and mostly everything smelled very horrible. He salvaged maybe 3% of his total life's belongings and collections. He was happy to bring something out and move on. Still, he lost many friends he may never know how to find ever again (if they lived/survived....).

I hate to even say this, but I keep having this nagging feeling that we haven't seen the worst of it yet. I find myself bracing for whatever is coming. It's like an invisible cloud that I can feel hovering. I try to be positive, Jupiterian in my nature, but lately I've been feeling that a series of events is yet ahead.

The good news is that sometimes the shedding of the past that can occur in tragedy and catastrophe can be a good thing for those who allow positive transition and change. I've seen it happen in my own life over and over for 50 years. Recently read it is connected with my Jupiter being retrograde. I don't know about that, but I do know I tend to gain the most understanding through tough times.

I have Uranus conjunct my south node in cancer in my natal. I think Jupiter was squaring it while I had so many folks coming and going in my house. I'm amazed, looking back, at how smoothly it all went.

[sangoma]

Hi,

I was looking for a topic on luck and in the search came up with this thread-not sure how-but think it is a form of luck or synchronisity of another sort.

I have been `cought' in a situation not much to my liking-it involves old SA white on black racism-its as if it will never die that wound in this nations psyche. A white colleague cannot stop herself projecting every wrong onto a black colleague-and he happens to be very cloe to me-I am white-and that is where the north node comes into play-my north node is in aquarius in its own 11th house. I was so hating this racist stuff-I see how much this young black friend suffers-and I see how utterly blind is my white colleague to her prejuces-I have even prayed to God to release me from this job-from these people-to let me go and paint (south node in Leo in 5th H)-but He won't let me-so I started to really search for why-could it be that He had some will for me I wanted to have none of ?-and this is very painful indeed (it is'nt ego taking at al-never mind the leo south node)-I realised that I was myself in the strangest position-I have had the most extraordianry friendships with black males-some of them are from mid African countries and very traditional-to the Euro-centric world they appear to be -so embedded in their heavy African mores as to be `in darkness'-yet I have found such depth of insight,such kindred spirit that I am always amazed that there is such a thing as racial prejudice-now I suspect that my task is to do something so as to show that the spirit is the spirit -despite the colour or race or culture. All `old hat'? -yes certainly-but when it is a part of one's north node it dose not seem `old hat' or blase-I have the rulers of the south and north node conjunct in cancer in the 5th house-and that uranus/sun makes me seach to find a unique way of dealing with this `old hat' topic-and I know God will help me in it.

In the middle of this ugliness I came across this quote that Melanie Reinhart gives for Chiron in the 11 house or aquarius (I have chiron in Cap but in 11th and transit chiron is conjuct my north node -so most appropriate to my delemma) -"Human salvation lies in the hands of the cratively malajusted.. honesty impels me to admit that transformed nonconformity, which is always costly and never atogether comfortble, may mean waking through the valley of the shadow of suffering" (From Martin Luther King, "Strength to Love") I take it as King speaking of his spiritual struggle to yet love the racists- and moreover to have the courage of nonconformity to their limited tonal view of life- I recall when Nelson Mandela came out of Prison the local papers had his horoscope-and what impressed me was the Uranus in aquarius opposition saturn in leo-the 27 years in prison were a valley of suffering paid for his original `treasonable' act of nonconformity or rebellion.

Don't take it I am putting myself next King or Mandela-I am not- my version is much more simple-I had a dream once which told me all I needed to know of the nature of my north node-I was with a group of societies rejects-we by passed various cities I had lived in-and ended up on the edge of the `coloured location' (for those of mixed decent- among soil erosion like the American Badlands-) -we,the rejects found ourselves lost-there was a cult of hippies -I said to the others I was not going in there I knew they brainwashed people as my sister belonged to them (she has moon in aquarius and her friends are a bit cultish)-I went on my own to a rural library/community centre-there I found an old friend-one of those rejected by my present white colleague -in this case she was not racist as such-but against this rather excentric fellow-worker because she was not perfect in her job (no gessing which was Pisces and which virgo?) and she was demoated for it- I asked my rejected friend how she was doing-fine-her family-fine-she had found a way to survive out of the system and was happy-she now ran this rural `Badland's cultural center" -while talking to her I saw a man-I thought "this is the man I have waited for all my life!"-he sat with me while I spoke to my friend-this man afterwards said he would lead myself and the other rejects out of this valley back to the city-along a sort of highway-I looked at him trying to decide if I should follow him-he was of no known race-he was all of black, white and Indian-and he was dressed as an African Shaman-I wondered why I liked him so very much and then I made the connection-he was Jesus Christ-that is the form that the supreme Shaman/Redeamer would take (for me) -and yes he would be of no definable race-he would have something to do with the north node in aquarius and the brotherhood of man and he woud be the ultimate ally and friend- he would also be everyman. I am greatful for this dream-as north node in aquarius is not easy-to find the existential possiblities in the waifs and strays of life is how Martin Shulman puts it-to follow your dreams and to abdicate the south node leo throne-Ouch some of it is bitterly lonely.!

[Daria]

Sangoma,

As a fellow north node in Aquarius (in the 7th), your posting really resonated with me in that I am always drawn to the interesting people who sort of live on the fringe, the misfits like me perhaps. A shaman once told me and a friend of mine that we were misfits, not fitting in with the mainstream, and we both have Aquarius north nodes. For me, the way that I deal with my north node is to simply honor and pay attention to the fact that this is a very important part of me. I'm not sure if I'm expressing my understanding of your posting quite well enough, but just wanted to express to you that I get what you're saying, that I experience my Aquarius north node in a similar sort of way.

[sarita]

Hi Della........

(06 Feb 2004 10:31)Della Wrote:  My Nth Node is in Pisces in the 3rd and my Sth is in Virgo in the 9th.

I grew up in a non-religious family and at about the age of 8 or 9, due to the influence of a teacher I think, I became extremely religious, After a few years, for some reason, my philosophy changed and I became a total atheist.!

But I am embracing my Sth Node and I did it LONG before I knew what it was! Maybe as I become more aware and more mature, I'll relax and let things happen as my Pisces Node would like... But for now, I'm finding a perfect balance between all things methodical and structured and going with the spiritual flow!

I grew up in a religious family, south node in Virgo in 2nd, north in Pisces in the 8th. My journey too was moving from religion or bound practices to a more eastern philosophical spiritual approach with a high level of art and creativity. both neptune and venus closely aspect my north node and I am finally getting it that I need to concentrate on being an artist now.
Like you I am a sun scorpio so I've done a lot of psychology with mars too in virgo. I analyzed first, but I became more Pisces when I studied Gestalt tharapy and helped clients for seven years.
Now I'm a drifting, seaside fish, trying to find a balance (3 planets in libra) between pisces oneness and bliss and the skills I aquired in my virgo detailed work.
I think it is a life pattern for me to constantly work this nodal axis and the scorpio water sign helps me flow into pisces, but like you, if I go there to fast and too soon I get backed up and have to return to deal with practicalities. Hey Ho.

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I thought I'd share, because I don't think it's a combination that's been mentioned yet: I have Cancer 10th house NN, and Capricorn 4th SN.

Have you any Librian planets? having the opposite house to sign, eg capricorn nth in the 4th requires balancing your nodal axis I think, not gong too much one way or the other. work and family balance maybe.